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#1 Monty Chan

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Posted 15 June 2011 - 11:54 PM

Need help to decide either a set of Cooke Panchro includes 25,32,50,75, 100 or the standard primes 16, 28, 40, 60 *macro, 85, 100, 180. I recently got budget for either set. I have rented the standard prime before. The images were consistantly very good and not a huge different compared to the ultra prime. I heard that the New Panchros are also great but with 1 stop slower. I'm leaning towards the used zeiss considering the set is cheaper and 1 stop faster. But really want to hear what you guys think about these two set.
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#2 Stephen Williams

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 03:40 AM

Need help to decide either a set of Cooke Panchro includes 25,32,50,75, 100 or the standard primes 16, 28, 40, 60 *macro, 85, 100, 180. I recently got budget for either set. I have rented the standard prime before. The images were consistantly very good and not a huge different compared to the ultra prime. I heard that the New Panchros are also great but with 1 stop slower. I'm leaning towards the used zeiss considering the set is cheaper and 1 stop faster. But really want to hear what you guys think about these two set.
I appreciate your comments.


Personally I would go with the Pancros, I like the cooke look. You have modern lenses with good lens spacing. 10 years ago you could not give away a set of Standards!
The wide Sandards porthole with digital sensors so you have to stop down to T2.8 or more in any case.
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Posted 18 June 2011 - 12:55 AM

Personally I would go with the Pancros, I like the cooke look. You have modern lenses with good lens spacing. 10 years ago you could not give away a set of Standards!
The wide Sandards porthole with digital sensors so you have to stop down to T2.8 or more in any case.

Thank for your reply Stephen. I have seen the zeiss std spd 16mm on epic 4k, no porthole was seen. I like the cooke look too, but 2.8 might be little slow for me, since I shoot mostly closeup and low light. I don't know if anyone has compared cooke panchro and the S4. The reason why I consider the zeiss standard prime, because it is very very sharp even comparing to the ultra prime.
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Posted 18 June 2011 - 04:17 AM

Thank for your reply Stephen. I have seen the zeiss std spd 16mm on epic 4k, no porthole was seen. I like the cooke look too, but 2.8 might be little slow for me, since I shoot mostly closeup and low light. I don't know if anyone has compared cooke panchro and the S4. The reason why I consider the zeiss standard prime, because it is very very sharp even comparing to the ultra prime.


The 16mm portholes on Red Ome, set the lens wide open & look at a white / grey background. Stop down to 2.8/4 & it's gone. It's there for sure if you look!
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Posted 18 June 2011 - 11:56 AM

you're right stephen, tested at the studio this morning with the 16mm. It does portholes unless stopping down 1 or 2 stop. Do you think 24/28/32 will also portholes at 4K? We only have a 16mm at this moment, and the 40mm/50mm look fine.
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Posted 18 June 2011 - 12:37 PM

The 16mm Zeiss Standard portholes very obviously on Red One (4k), but the 24mm works well wide-open (I haven't tested it just to see if it portholes, but my footage, which was shot in low-light with lots of shadows, was OK, so if it portholes it wasn't that obvious).
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#7 Stephen Williams

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Posted 18 June 2011 - 01:11 PM

The 16mm Zeiss Standard portholes very obviously on Red One (4k), but the 24mm works well wide-open (I haven't tested it just to see if it portholes, but my footage, which was shot in low-light with lots of shadows, was OK, so if it portholes it wasn't that obvious).


From my testing the 24 was fine by 2.8 on a grey background at 2.1 it was noticeable.
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