Posted 22 June 2011 - 12:37 PM
I will be shooting on film using a Beaulieu 7008 super 8 camera with an assortment of lenses available, though
I am leaning towards a Schneider 8-50 with a wide angle adapter. A couple of Edward Hopper paintings, specifically
"Gas" and "Four Lane Road," are serving as inspiration. In terms of what I'm going for, I wish to create living
photographs that at least somewhat emulate those paintings but look as though they were filmed in 1970, with that
year's film technology.
Can anyone help me analyze images from that year and tell me what makes them look specifically from 1970? Then, of
course, please help with how I can recreate that look.
Pro8mm of Burbank will be processing, color correcting, and scanning the film with their Millennium II HD scanning
suite. I believe they can load any commercially available film into a super 8 cartridge, thus I can theoretically
use any film that's out there, though their standards are the Kodak Vision 3 family and Fuji Eterna.
Below is a link to a set of film images from that year. I am leaning towards "Le Circle Rouge", "The Bird With the
Crystal Plumage", and, of course, "The Conformist".
Here are links to "Gas" and "Four Lane Road," respectively:
I deeply appreciate any help.
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Posted 23 June 2011 - 12:27 AM
of the super 8 format, along with period appropriate costume, design, and hair, will
go a long way in evoking that period.
But might someone be willing to give me their technical, and/or aesthetic, critique
of the movie images created that year. I'm speaking in terms of color, saturation,
luminance, etc. For example, some of today's film boasts a luminance range of 13 and
half stops. I have to assume that film of that day had no where near that latitude,
therefore, I may not want my corrected image to have it, either.
Posted 23 June 2011 - 01:28 AM
Movies had a generally "dupier" look by the time they hit theaters, which is hard to see today as these old movies are transferred from the original negatives or new interpositives, etc.
To some extent, lighting looked a bit harsher at times, partly due to the slow speed of stocks back then, making it harder to use a lot of soft lighting, though some movies were.
There was also a period where a lot of movies were using Fog or Low Con diffusion filters, though not the ones you were talking about.
It would be easy to add a bit of contrast in the video transfer or color-correction process.
Posted 23 July 2011 - 02:33 AM
Modern negative stocks just don't have the same ooomph that the older ones did, IMO. They look too video-y to me, too clear. Contrast and saturation is key. Use lots of soft indirect or bounce lighting for that European look. Quartz definitely, not tungsten bulbs or spots.
Oh, and avoid extreme wide-angle settings for sure. Don't go any wider than about 12mm/super 8. And shoot closeups with a bit of telephoto. If you really want to get 1970 funky just overuse the zoom. That'll do it. And location sound, not too slicked up.
Posted 24 July 2011 - 12:00 AM
I agree with you completely about the direction of modern stocks, the sharpness is really
unpleasant and boring; in HD video it's reached horrific. And not to knock anyone specific,
but that high key look of so many modern studio films (I believe popularized by "Love,
Actually") is both boring and highly reminiscent of video, which is not what I want out of film.
I think Gordon Willis was quoted as saying that he was, at the time, most impressed by "Love,
Actually" and then everyone started doing it.
I wish I had the time to do more testing, as I would have loved to have tried out your 100D/light
fog filter idea. Are there any examples you can point me to?
I also agree completely regarding the non-use of wide angle during that period. As a bonus, using
zoom would give it a softer look. However, my personal preference for non-distorted wide angles
may override. As for the light, I am using late afternoon sunlight into magic hour. Do you think
that will be soft enough, or will I need a silk?
(Thanks also for the tip regarding sound. Due to traffic it may not be possible, but maybe).
Edited by Larry Miles, 24 July 2011 - 12:01 AM.
Posted 24 July 2011 - 09:40 AM
By the way, is that Catherine Schell in the Bird With The Crystal Plumage shot? Love that techniscope.