new arri 16bl user, need advice choosing a lens
Posted 08 October 2011 - 06:31 PM
i have totaly abandoned any ideas of gate grinding and so forth to chase ultra or modified super 16. its a 16bl. its suposed to shoot reg 16. anything else is gonna be a mess. so back to my still roots which say make sure the focal plane is dead nuts on, transports and gate are surgically clean, glass is right, clean, and the vf matches the glass.
im just not sure the glass is right. your thoughts?
(i know its not an sr3. but its an arri. and its design features are damn nice. and its quiet enough not to spook critters. and my bolexs, i can still take off the mags, wind em up, and throw in a back pack. so i wont be ditching them either)
Posted 08 October 2011 - 06:51 PM
i dont zoom while filming so "breathing" is not an issue for me.
sorry meant focus. but i dont zoom either so a perfect zoom design is not a must. just bright and sharp.
Edited by steve waschka, 08 October 2011 - 06:53 PM.
Posted 08 October 2011 - 11:19 PM
Posted 09 October 2011 - 12:39 AM
now that you mention that, i do remember coming across a list of lenses that fit the housing. ill have to pull the manual and see if its in there. oh and i seem to remember something about some arri lenses having a different... i guess its not the backspacing cause the flange is the same... but the rear element is closer to the film plane on some than others?? and the bl has the mirror tucked up real tight to the flange??? i dont want to hit the mirror!!!!
still id love some "consumer reviews" from you guys before i go blowing money on old lenses and rebuilding them. forbid i find one ready to shoot for less than a whole outfit.
Edited by steve waschka, 09 October 2011 - 12:43 AM.
Posted 09 October 2011 - 10:00 PM
From talking to people who used them back in the day the 12-120 was well regarded if you got a good one - Arri supposedly tested them before supplying a blimped version and only accepted the best ones, so obviously there was quite some variety in quality. They were a hugely successful lens and went through a few upgrades over the many years of their manufacture, so later ones will be better. Unfortunately their popularity, especially as a news gathering lens, means they will often have been worked very hard and quite probably are now out of tolerance or damaged.
The Zeiss T3 10-100 was also good, quite sharp and probably better contrast, but a bit slower and a terrible breather. It also zoomed the wrong direction which annoyed a lot of people.
Of course any zoom this old won't compare well with contemporary primes, let alone modern glass, but stopped down they should be OK. Worth getting them looked at by a lens tech though.
With a Universal blimp you can use primes - most of the 16mm Zeisses, Schneider Cine-Xenons and Cooke Speed Panchros (not Kinetals). The 18 and 100 Schneiders and Panchros and 135 Zeiss can be used but won't fit the blimp.
Posted 09 October 2011 - 10:33 PM
ya i saw that kit for $6500 while trolling for lenses. thats pretty complete. one bl is enough. next will be and sr3 i suppose. but i think the bl is going to do well for a while. it feels pretty intuitive on the shoulder and balances alright on a monopod. got to keep it simple
i think im going to keep an eye out for the universal blimp and start collecting primes. i dont own zooms for still work. never have. so i guess going arri is just lending itself in the same direction. guess a shoulder bag for a few primes is gonna be an accessory. at least i built an Li pack so thats a little lighter.
shooting wildlife sports etc almost everything for me is f8 or smaller with a polarizer so i guess ill be ok for a while. thanks for the help on the zooms.
any of those listed primes known to be the holy grail? oh yeah... and how hard is it going to be to switch a lens out of a universal blimp in the field?
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