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#1 Vincent Sweeney

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Posted 03 November 2011 - 05:20 PM

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#2 Brian Drysdale

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Posted 03 November 2011 - 05:40 PM

Very much aimed at the F3 market, but it doesn't seem to have the s-log type options, but has the broadcast spec codec from the xf 300 recording onto CF. I expect people will buy 3rd party accessories.
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#3 Adrian Sierkowski

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Posted 03 November 2011 - 05:47 PM

Remember back when cameras made sense to go on your shoulder?
Though Canon PL primes could be rather interesting. Nice to see the low-er end lens markets heat up a bit.
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#4 Keith Walters

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Posted 03 November 2011 - 05:59 PM

"CEO Fujio Mitarai unveiled the product on the Paramount Pictures movie lot Thursday, saying its digital images had the warmth of film and brought out skin tones well."

Quick! Quick! I've got to have one! Now!
Where can I buy one!
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Posted 03 November 2011 - 06:33 PM

$16 grand. Ouch! So much for the long hoped for 5D MKIII that would resolve the terrible jello effects and moire patterns.
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#6 Stuart Brereton

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Posted 03 November 2011 - 06:35 PM

All the 3rd party accessory manufacturers have taken one look at the ergonomics of this camera and are thinking all their Christmases have come at once.
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Posted 03 November 2011 - 06:37 PM

$16 grand seems real steep from something that doesn't seem all that new. As much as I dislike saying it, Red may have them beat with Scarlet for this one.
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#8 Vincent Sweeney

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Posted 03 November 2011 - 06:53 PM

I'm not seeing a real street price yet so $16k probably isn't accurate. The 1.3 prime lenses sound more interesting so far.

What is the other camera, by the way?

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Posted 03 November 2011 - 06:57 PM

What is the other camera, by the way?


There are two versions, one with the Canon mount and the other with a PL mount, so chances are it's the former.
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Posted 03 November 2011 - 07:19 PM

I'm not sure why 3rd party mfg would be any more excited about this than any of the other new s35 cams on the market (exception being Alexa or F65) - none of the new s35 chip cams have any thought of operability - jam as much in as small a package as possible and let the end user figure it out. wait no, call it "modular" and charge more for all the freedom! F3, Af100, RED, this - all suck for ergonomics. The REAL killer would be an XDCAM body with the F3 chip, but until that happens its nice to have so many compact and uncomfortable options. Including this new one.

As for price, who knows, itll likely be less than 16, probably 10 or less - all rumors right now. The camera in the bg looks like a 1d body, which would make sense - the new 1dx is an EF video body - perhaps they decided to give it the red "c" now, much like sony badging "cinealta" on their 24p cams.

I agree with Adrian though - the lenses look very interesting. Very usable range on the 14.5-60, nice stop - could be a killer lens. Canon HD video optics (HDXS / KLL) have superb focus feel, hope that translates to these lenses.

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#11 Vincent Sweeney

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Posted 03 November 2011 - 07:24 PM

$20k MSRP price?? A little more than steep when you consider the F3 with its better form factor and likely close matching image for a ton less.
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#12 Phil Rhodes

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Posted 03 November 2011 - 07:43 PM

Well, I almost flew to LA for the launch of this thing. Pleased I didn't now...

It is in every respect more or less what we all expected, quineg?

And yes, it needs to be sub-$10k to be a realistic proposition.
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#13 Vincent Sweeney

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Posted 03 November 2011 - 07:58 PM

Yeah with red doing the 35mm Scarlet, it will be a hard sell.
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#14 John Sprung

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Posted 03 November 2011 - 08:01 PM

I wonder if this is the only thing they have. The e-mail from the ASC said that the big deal would be the November 4 announcement.




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#15 Adrian Sierkowski

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Posted 03 November 2011 - 08:03 PM

I think the F-3 is a more direct competition, as is the AF101 and the FS100. Lets face it, with RED you're going for the RAW worklow, as these cams don't really offer RAW, S-Log notwithstanding, they are designed for shoots where RED doesn't work as well or isn't needed (such as documentary, or when you need a faster turn 'round than working in RAW ect.)
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Posted 03 November 2011 - 08:06 PM

$20k MSRP price?? A little more than steep when you consider the F3 with its better form factor and likely close matching image for a ton less.

Yeah I was even more shocked when it turned out to be 20. I can't see this is as justifiable, the F3 seems far more practical than this, but it's hard to decide without seeing images yet.

I also agree with Adrian, I imagine TV would be another format where high resolution and raw is significantly less necessary.

Scarlet announcement should be anytime now. Also John what's supposed to be on November 4?
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#17 Vincent Sweeney

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Posted 03 November 2011 - 08:07 PM

I thought the Canon stuff was on the 4th after getting an invite to their announcement for either the 4th or 5th. Maybe there's more? I don't feel like it's worth the traffic trouble though. The DSLR in the pic is bound to be a better video version of what they make now... so who is going to buy the big one for $10k+ more since a lot of people (ignorantly) think the 5/7D is already the best thing since sliced bread?
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Posted 03 November 2011 - 08:33 PM

I thought the Canon stuff was on the 4th after getting an invite to their announcement for either the 4th or 5th. Maybe there's more? I don't feel like it's worth the traffic trouble though. The DSLR in the pic is bound to be a better video version of what they make now... so who is going to buy the big one for $10k+ more since a lot of people (ignorantly) think the 5/7D is already the best thing since sliced bread?

Yeah too true, most people are already settling for the 5D/7Ds ridiculous h.264 format at such a poor data rate.

Red is completely down, too much traffic I guess.
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Posted 03 November 2011 - 08:42 PM

To crosspost from CML, the Scarlet data is as follows:


SCARLET is:

5K still, 4K motion camera

5K - up to 12fps, 6fps HDRX
4K - 4096 x 2160 - from 1 - 25fps, HDRx - 12fps

4K QuadHD - up to 30fps
3K - to 48fps
2K - to 60fps
1K - to 120fps

Configuration...

BRAIN + Side SSD + Canon Aluminum mount - shipping Dec. 1.
BRAIN + Side SSD + Titanium PL Mount - shipping Nov. 17.

SCARLET - same form factor as EPIC with a very few changes:
Grey instead of Black
No Ribs - smooth
Every accessory for EPIC works for SCARLET.

It is the same sensor as in EPIC.

PRICE - US$ 9,750 - for brain, side SSD + Canon Aluminum Mount.
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#20 Colum O Dwyer

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Posted 03 November 2011 - 09:08 PM

How soon until Canon 'adjust' their pricing after the Scarlet announcement? Hmmm.
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