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#1 Hamza Ben

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 01:30 PM

hi guys...
i've been surfing in vimeo, and came by this french commercial ...what really blew me out is the sound quality, it sounds so clean.

how do you think guys this was made? i mean the technique is it ADR or on set? what equipement could give such quality, i'm really dying for such a sound quality.
hope you'll help me.
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#2 Tyler Faison

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 11:14 AM

hi guys...
i've been surfing in vimeo, and came by this french commercial ...what really blew me out is the sound quality, it sounds so clean.

how do you think guys this was made? i mean the technique is it ADR or on set? what equipement could give such quality, i'm really dying for such a sound quality.
hope you'll help me.
the vid:


I agree with the quality. It's superb. I'd say it sounds like it was recorded on-location. Particularly the bathroom scene. Unless they went out of their way in post, but it was all tight shots, so it would have been easy to get in there real tight with a Schoeps.
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#3 Hamza Ben

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 08:47 AM

I agree with the quality. It's superb. I'd say it sounds like it was recorded on-location. Particularly the bathroom scene. Unless they went out of their way in post, but it was all tight shots, so it would have been easy to get in there real tight with a Schoeps.


i asked the guy who made it, and he said that it was done(sound) on stage, and he told me that he would ask the sound guy about the method, so i'm waiting his answer :)
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#4 Daron James

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 03:43 PM

Hi Ben,

Glad you went straight to the source for your answer... But if you're looking for superb quality for location sound recording, I suggest a Schoeps CMIT-5U microphone with Sound Devices equipment - SD 702, 744, 788 field recorders paired with a field mixer. MixPreD, Cooper 208D, Sonosax, etc. For lavaliers, "USA industry standards" right now are the Sanken COS-11D or the DPA lavs.

If you have a local audio rental house to go to... they can help you pick out the best mixer/recorder system for your particular project. But keep in mind, no matter how good of equipment you have, it's all about microphone placement - top of the line equipment just allows a little more flexibility when you're developing your skill level.

Edited by daron james, 29 February 2012 - 03:45 PM.

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#5 Tyler Faison

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 02:37 PM

But keep in mind, no matter how good of equipment you have, it's all about microphone placement - top of the line equipment just allows a little more flexibility when you're developing your skill level.


It's not quite all about microphone placement. Correct gain structure and setting levels to camera (if single system) is as important, if not more important. Granted they're all important, but you can't just have correct mic placement and think you're in good shape.
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#6 Tony Koretz

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 06:10 AM

There are so many factors that go into getting great sound quality.
a)The microphones used and their placement
b)The sound of the room where it is recorded, and any treatment of the room
c)The quality of the preamps used and the level setting of the preamps
d)The quality of the A/D converters
e)The post production and the correct use of compression

Getting all the factors right is the only way to get the most stunning sound. The results are only as good as the weakest link in the chain. In the end it comes down to experience, and knowing what's not right when you are recording/editing/mixing it. If the results are not so stellar, experienced professional operators usually quickly nut out the reasons why not.
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#7 Daron James

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 05:06 PM

It's not quite all about microphone placement. Correct gain structure and setting levels to camera (if single system) is as important, if not more important. Granted they're all important, but you can't just have correct mic placement and think you're in good shape.


All great points every sound designer should take into consideration... should have worded it as "starts" with microphone placement..." :)

Edited by daron james, 02 March 2012 - 05:07 PM.

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#8 Hamza Ben

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Posted 05 March 2012 - 09:58 AM

thank you guys, i now have an idea about this, but really didnt know before about those equipements that daron james mentioned wooow that's freaking expensive.
but thanks to all of you, but i guess a sound mixer/designer(which i'm nt) is needed to make something like that.
cheers
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#9 Matthew Freed

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Posted 11 August 2012 - 12:14 AM

Good sound isn't cheap or easy, but it is possible and it happens every day on productions.
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