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#1 Joseph Curran

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 06:22 PM

Hi there,

I was hoping some of you might be able to tell me of any 16mm film stocks (black and white or colour, reversal or negative) that do not have an anti-halation backing?

Many thanks,

Joseph.
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#2 Charles MacDonald

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 10:57 PM

I was hoping some of you might be able to tell me of any 16mm film stocks (black and white or colour, reversal or negative) that do not have an anti-halation backing?


Depends on what you mean by "backing"

Generally only the colour negative stocks come with a the REM-Jet black backing. B&W stocks typically have the anti-halation function Primarly provided by being coated on a grey base. although they may also have a dye undercoat that is removed by the processing chemicals. Colour reversal film many have dye undercoat or a silver layer that is removed in the bleach step.

Are you attempting to obtain a flare in your shots, or are you woried about processing?
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#3 Simon Wyss

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 02:58 AM

Anti-halo backing, actually soot-blackened gelatin, is a matter of colour films. Kodachrome had it, Agfacolor, modern films have it.

If youʼre looking for black-and-white stock with a colourless base you have

  • Agfa-Scala 35mm (5 ft. only), anti-halo subbing, acetate
  • Fomapan Reversal 35mm/16mm/8mm, anti-halo subbing, acetate
  • Gigabitfilm 40 35mm/16mm, anti-halo integrated, polyester
  • Orwo DP 31, anti-halo subbing, polyester
  • Eastman x366 35mm/16mm, acetate or polyester
  • Eastman x363 35mm/16mm, acetate
  • Some sound recording films 35mm/16mm
  • All print films

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#4 Joseph Curran

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 04:49 AM

Thank you for both your replies, the list of film stocks particularly.

I was looking to do some experimentation with the flare effect. I wondered if there was a stock that did not come with any dye/soot backing.

Otherwise, as I understand it, if I ran the stock through a mild alkaline solution it should remove the anti-halo layer.

So, for the flare effect yes, not for processing.

I'll do some more research into the different types of backing, your help is much appreciated.
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