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#1 tim westover

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 02:39 AM

Hi, I'm shooting an upcoming short in a smaller hotel room and I think I would like to give the illusion that it is mainly lit with practicals. The scene takes place at night and is a dark story so I'm wondering if anyone could give me some advice on the lighting for the room and what to use.


One scene takes place going back and forth from the door/hallway to the bed.

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The second scene takes mainly in the two chairs, the desk chair pulled out to face the other.

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Thanks.
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#2 tim westover

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 11:02 AM

I forgot to say I am shooting this on a t2i if that helps.
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#3 tim westover

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 06:59 PM

Anybody? Any tips or suggestions on a possible set up would be a big help
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Posted 15 March 2012 - 10:14 PM

Tim,
You can go at this from any number of ways. Your concentrating on equipment when you should be concentrating on emotion. What is going on in the scene? No one here is going to solve your problems for you. We can give advice but you need to throw something our way. You haven't given day or night, scary or romantic. I would look into reading Film Lighting by Kris Malkiewicz. It'll give a bunch of insight on scenarios.

Also, great space to shoot in.
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#5 tim westover

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 12:02 PM

Your right Darrell sorry about that.

First here's a little insight into what goes on in the scene.

The scene takes place at first with a man barging his way through the door into the room. He finds a his wife and another man in bed together. He shoots at one of them and the man in the bed slides of the bed and crawls on the floor on the right side of the bed. Then this fades to black.
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http://oi40.tinypic.com/54zvvl.jpg

We then open to the main part of the scene with the two characters, the man who has been shot and the man who broke in sitting in the too chairs facing one another.
http://oi42.tinypic.com/35a3pfs.jpg
http://oi43.tinypic.com/29e11xi.jpg

Overall I guess you could call it a thriller.

For the lighting I would like to attempt something like the no country for old men hotel scene where the lighting on the practicals (around the bed and on the desk) look very bright and the rest of the rooms kind of falls off into darkness. Right now the light's next to the bed give off a very soft look that almost fills the entire room.

http://www.hotel-hot...out-youtube.jpg
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Two others things I'm having a little trouble deciding upon is how I would give some light to the small hallway following the entrance to the room and also how to make the area behind the chair against the wall next to the bed side table look a little more interesting.

Thanks.

-Tim

Edited by tim westover, 16 March 2012 - 12:05 PM.

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#6 tim westover

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 02:59 PM

Oh I forgot to add, the scene also takes place at night, we plan to keep the shades pulled closed to keep a consistent control over the lighting.

Edited by tim westover, 16 March 2012 - 03:00 PM.

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#7 Darrell Ayer

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 11:55 PM

I would keep it dark, put low wattage bulbs in the practical lamps (30w?) and shoot it with a china ball an some other light. I'd keep it overhead an a little behind the lovers, keep spill off the walls with flags. Back light the guy as he comes in so he walks into the light from the hallway. I'm also a huge fan of a light fog for light rays.
Good luck.
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#8 Darrell Ayer

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 12:01 AM

Thought I should look at your photos before posting. too. I like the feel of the room as you have it. Use a bit of negative fill on the camera side to strengthen the contrast. Keep lights off the entrance an throw a back kicker on. All in all just use the bedside lamps.
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#9 tim westover

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 09:53 AM

Ok thanks, so after taking a look at the pictures you would still recommend the 30w bulbs?

I cannot hang anything on the ceiling really so I'm trying to figure out how I would get a china ball above the subjects. What would be a good alternative as I'm not sure I even have access to one, (i'll be finding out later today)

Thanks

Tim

Edited by tim westover, 17 March 2012 - 09:53 AM.

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#10 John Holland

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 01:08 PM

Do you know what ISO you are going to set yout t2i at ?
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Posted 18 March 2012 - 10:20 AM

Do you know what ISO you are going to set yout t2i at ?


I'd keep the ISO at whatever gets you an exposure and I'd get a C stand and a boom arm to hold the china ball or a little tape. And I wouldn't recommend the 30w after seeing the photos, I would say that you need to get your own bulbs in there though unless you want them to be different colors...
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#12 tim westover

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Posted 18 March 2012 - 10:39 AM

Yeah I think right now we're planning on using 40 watt bulbs for both the lights, then bouncing a chimera off the ceiling from the right side of the bed.
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