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#1 Daniel Jackson

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 04:00 AM

Having enjoyed both of Daniel Craig's outings as James Bond 007 I am really looking forward to his latest offering, Skyfall. Having watched the teaser trailer for it last night and knowing who is in front of and behind the camera I know I will NOT be disappointed.
What are your initial opinions?

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#2 Brian Drysdale

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 06:59 AM

Having enjoyed both of Daniel Craig's outings as James Bond 007 I am really looking forward to his latest offering, Skyfall. Having watched the teaser trailer for it last night and knowing who is in front of and behind the camera I know I will NOT be disappointed.
What are your initial opinions?

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=8757


I hope they drop the Bourne style stuff, it was a bit of a mess in the last film. It has a logic in the Bourne films, it just looks tacked on in the Bond films. It being darker isn't a problem, the books were pretty dark.
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#3 KH Martin

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 04:48 PM

I thought they've been promising to lighten up with this third one, so this is like Connery and Moore's third (GOLDFINGER and SPY WHO LOVED ME) ... I do NOT get that impression at all from the trailer.

Despite the ADD cutting, I thought QUANTUM did wonders making up for all the plotting silliness in CASINO and I was almost able to stand Craig in QUANTUM, though he should be second henchman from the left with that face, not Bond at all.

The Mendes/Deakins/Gassner combo is a good one (I have a hard time reconciling Bond & Digital, but if it had to be, then Deakins is the right guy to do it), but I find Logan to be a very weak link in the writing dept. No witty dialog to speak of in the trailer, but it's early days yet.
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#4 Darrell Ayer

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 12:19 AM

I thought they've been promising to lighten up with this third one, so this is like Connery and Moore's third (GOLDFINGER and SPY WHO LOVED ME) ... I do NOT get that impression at all from the trailer.

Despite the ADD cutting, I thought QUANTUM did wonders making up for all the plotting silliness in CASINO and I was almost able to stand Craig in QUANTUM, though he should be second henchman from the left with that face, not Bond at all.


KH,
Not to be a purist snob, but please read the books and see where the character comes from. Daniel Craig is an almost perfect match to Fleming's original vision. Also the books aren't lighthearted or cheeky in the slightest.
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#5 KH Martin

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 01:02 PM

KH,
Not to be a purist snob, but please read the books and see where the character comes from. Daniel Craig is an almost perfect match to Fleming's original vision. Also the books aren't lighthearted or cheeky in the slightest.
Darrell


I've owned Fleming's entire Bond series in hardcover since I was a teen, along with John Pearson's 'biography' of 007 (which is practically an extension of Fleming it reads so well) and have reread them religiously over the last 36 years. Craig matches the craggy-faced thug working for LeChiffre in the original novel, and ain't nothing like Bond.

DALTON is the near-perfect match for Fleming's Bond, the Bond of CR's 'nature of evil' chapter and especially of the later books when he is more world weary and cynical. Connery's Bond is wonderful but its own thing, apart from Fleming (probably as it should be.) Brosnan gets a bad rap, but a lot of that is crap direction and abominations for scripts ... see him in TAILOR OF PANAMA and you will see a brutal side that would have made Bond seem real, assuming Boorman ever got to direct PB in a 007 flick.

And yeah, the reason I'm skipping mentioning Roger Moore (who would be fine if he were playing Bond's gay uncle, if he only had one) is that I spent his entire tenure waiting for the day when somebody would take this seriously again.

I can't blame Craig for CR's writing of the character, and I won't give him credit for QUANTUM's more mature outlook, which to my eyes benefited him enormously. But he has no more business playing Bond than Taylor Negron. Even Craig's much-vaunted sexuality doesn't ring true - take a look at the scene in CR when he picks up Solange, the asst baddie's girlfriend. He is practically swallowing nervously waiting for her to say yes - it is more like Don Knotts with a girl than the James Bond of either film or Fleming.
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#6 Bill DiPietra

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 03:41 PM

The Bond franchise ended for me when Sean Connery no longer starred in them.
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#7 John Holland

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 04:26 PM

Agreed Bill but "Diamonds are for Ever" is a real stinker !!!
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#8 Bill DiPietra

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 04:05 PM

Agreed Bill but "Diamonds are for Ever" is a real stinker !!!


Yep...that was just a weird one.
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#9 Daniel Jackson

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 08:27 AM

I enjoyed Moore's Bond when I was a kid, but once my balls hit the floor I wanted some one who took the role more seriously.
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#10 Phil Rhodes

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 08:45 AM

I'm with Mr. Jackson on this.

No balls reference intended.

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#11 Brian Hulnick

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 06:55 AM

I don't want a squeaky clean, straight down the line hero. I want that dirty, in your face, don't give a **(obscenity removed)**, morally ambiguous hero.
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#12 Daniel Jackson

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 06:49 AM

Moore's Bond got more and more ridiculous. Almost like a parody of itself. Saying that, there were some good moments if you look hard enough.
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 01:26 AM

I believe this will be a defining moment for the Bond franchise.
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#14 Brian Hulnick

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 01:10 AM

I'm glad the writing has gotten a lot better. Some of the 70's stuff was atrocious.
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