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#1 Tanner Shelton

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 12:41 AM

I want a new camera. I have been wanting one for a long time. I have been looking around for one but I can't find one that fits what I need.

What I want is a camera that is no more then $2,000 at the most. I would like it to have changeable lenses. I would also like it to be HD. I want it to be able to record on SD cards or some other way besides tapes. I would like audio ports for extra mics and manual control buttons on the camera to control exposure and such. I dont know if it is at all possible to get one that cheap with all of those specifications but if it is anything like this then I would love it! Thank you all.

Oh and one last note. I dont want it to be a small camcorder. I want it to be as professional as it can be.
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Posted 24 May 2012 - 02:23 AM

I want a new camera. I have been wanting one for a long time. I have been looking around for one but I can't find one that fits what I need.

What I want is a camera that is no more then $2,000 at the most. I would like it to have changeable lenses. I would also like it to be HD. I want it to be able to record on SD cards or some other way besides tapes. I would like audio ports for extra mics and manual control buttons on the camera to control exposure and such. I dont know if it is at all possible to get one that cheap with all of those specifications but if it is anything like this then I would love it! Thank you all.

Oh and one last note. I dont want it to be a small camcorder. I want it to be as professional as it can be.


Sure you can't squeeze another $995 out of the world?

http://www.blackmagi...ma-an-overview/
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#3 Tanner Shelton

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 08:21 AM

The top end of my budget is $2,000. I can't spend any more then that. That looks like a really nice camera though!
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Posted 24 May 2012 - 08:37 AM

Oh and one last note. I dont want it to be a small camcorder. I want it to be as professional as it can be.



haha. that makes me laugh.


Save up. Rent. The best you'll probably do is a cheaper DSLR (and remember you have to buy lenses then too), and even those leave something to be desired.
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#5 David Mullen ASC

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 10:35 AM

"Professional HD camera" and "under $2000" are sort of contradictory. The best you'll get if you don't want a mini HD palmcorder is a DSLR, and at that price limit, not even the best DSLR but something like a Canon T3i Rebel or Panasonic Lumix GH2. The "hacked" version of the GH2 has done quite well in HD tests. There is also a little palmcorder with a large sensor, the Sony NEX-VG10 but it's not a pro camera, and it doesn't do 24P.

http://nofilmschool....ecord-advanced/
http://osgfilms.com/...-panasonic-gh2/
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Posted 24 May 2012 - 12:45 PM

Would there be a camera like this but with detachable and changeable lenses?

http://www.bhphotovi..._Camcorder.html
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Posted 24 May 2012 - 01:27 PM

Would there be a camera like this but with detachable and changeable lenses?

http://www.bhphotovi..._Camcorder.html



I modified the B&H search under pro camcorders to include only interchangeable lenses

http://www.bhphotovi...8814 4249888292
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#8 Tanner Shelton

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 07:34 PM

What do you guys think of this one? Out doesn't have a few of the things I want but its cheaper.
http://www.bhphotovi...s_Handycam.html
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#9 David Mullen ASC

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 07:49 PM

What do you guys think of this one? Out doesn't have a few of the things I want but its cheaper.
http://www.bhphotovi...s_Handycam.html


Fine if you are OK with Sony E-mount lenses and not being able to shoot 24P, just 30P. Look at the VG20 instead if you want 24P.
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Posted 24 May 2012 - 09:40 PM

Fine if you are OK with Sony E-mount lenses and not being able to shoot 24P, just 30P. Look at the VG20 instead if you want 24P.



Can I just say I think it's amazing you take the time to post on threads ranging from this to subtleties in lighting?
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#11 David Mullen ASC

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 10:18 PM

I'm between jobs...
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#12 Emanuel A Guedes

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 03:08 AM

David is always as much helpful as he can be.

Eleven years ago, when I was at Lisbon Film School, he already was a legend BTW. And never elitist, only pictures move his posts. Truly alive film school. There's no other here or anywhere else.
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Posted 04 June 2012 - 12:51 AM

Canon 7d. best best. great camera, only down side is the cropped sensor, but yo get a great camera for what your paying.

http://www.ebay.com/...#ht_8092wt_1139


that will leave you with a nice amount for a lens or two.
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#14 Phil Rhodes

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Posted 04 June 2012 - 04:27 AM

I think the GH2 has been mentioned already, but I'd probably rate it over the 7D. Less aliasing, and a somewhat better codec with third-party software.

Don't assume smaller sensors are just empirically "worse". Holding things in focus on a 5D is nightmarish unless you have good equipment and a good focus puller, and the sort of productions where these cameras are seen are also the sorts of productions where you are less likely to have those things.

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Posted 04 June 2012 - 03:18 PM

Very true phill, but the downside is obviously you're 50mm isn't going to be a genuine 50mm on the 7d. your going to need a wider range of lenses.
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Posted 04 June 2012 - 03:29 PM

Very true phill, but the downside is obviously you're 50mm isn't going to be a genuine 50mm on the 7d. your going to need a wider range of lenses.


There's a crop factor on all non full frame sensors.

You'll probably still want a wider range of lenses regardless, but the crop factor will usually always be there.
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Posted 04 June 2012 - 04:57 PM

Very true phill, but the downside is obviously you're 50mm isn't going to be a genuine 50mm on the 7d. your going to need a wider range of lenses.



A 50mm lens is always a 50mm lens, which on S35mm Film cameras / RED / Alexa / 7D will be a slight telephoto, a 'standard' lens on all of thease is about 32mm.

For the last 30 years a 'standard' set of primes has been 18 - 85mm
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#18 David Mullen ASC

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Posted 04 June 2012 - 04:59 PM

As a cinematographer who has never shot a feature or TV show on a VistaVision or FF35 camera, I don't get the logic of calling a 50mm lens on a Super-35 camera, or APS-C camera, etc. not a "genuine" 50mm lens. A 50mm is a 50mm. What changes is the field of view, and how many people out there primarily shoot with FF35 cameras that their only experience with what a 50mm lens sees is on that type of camera? By now there must be more shooters using APS-C DSLR's.
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