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#1 Francisco Martins

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 08:01 PM

Hi there,

Could anyone break down the lighting for City of Angels (kinds of lights, set up, achieving the sodium vapor look), and/or how to recreate the lighting for the FMV cut-scenes of Silent Hill 2 in real life?

I'm developing a 10-12 minute short and I need some advice about creating its look and itd be really helpful. The short also intends to feature a lot of fog/smoke atmosphere for its environments and could include large stretches of area, like seen below.

My references:

The Crow: City of Angels (1996)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46qco8ycx50
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Silent Hill 2 (2001)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60p0NMCBLw4
Particularly between 4:00 to 6:00. I realize its a video game but it depicts what I'm aiming for.

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Thank you all so much!!

*NOTE: This is similar to a post I made in General Discussion, but I figured it would make it easier to split the original post up and get specific questions answered in more appropriate forums. I hope that doesn't violate the rules.
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#2 David Mullen ASC

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 11:14 AM

The Silent Hill examples are overcast daylight with a lot of fog so I'm not sure what to tell you about lighting.

The Crow stuff is all amber-lit, big soft sidelights, or big top lights, etc., again, it's pretty obvious from the examples how it was lit in general, I can't tell you what units they used in specific. As for the color gel used, I don't know but there are plenty of choices in that yellowish range.
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Posted 28 June 2012 - 03:14 PM

The Silent Hill examples are overcast daylight with a lot of fog so I'm not sure what to tell you about lighting.

The Crow stuff is all amber-lit, big soft sidelights, or big top lights, etc., again, it's pretty obvious from the examples how it was lit in general, I can't tell you what units they used in specific. As for the color gel used, I don't know but there are plenty of choices in that yellowish range.


David,

http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hUzzIGIqIs

5:38-42, 6:25 to 6:38, and 7:10-25 shows some of the light units they use, would you happen to know what they are? It seems like amber/sodium vapor kinos in a soft box-like container, but Im not sure.
Also, what kind of HMI would be necessary to light large areas like they do?

Thank you so much!

Edited by Francisco Martins, 28 June 2012 - 03:15 PM.

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#4 David Mullen ASC

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 07:28 PM

The link doesn't work, but if you want to light a large area at night with a big amber light, you wouldn't start out with a blue-ish light like an HMI, you'd start with a big tungsten light, probably like a 12-light, 24-light Maxi-Brute, Dino, Raybeam, etc. Or a 20K tungsten.
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Posted 29 June 2012 - 12:28 AM

The link doesn't work, but if you want to light a large area at night with a big amber light, you wouldn't start out with a blue-ish light like an HMI, you'd start with a big tungsten light, probably like a 12-light, 24-light Maxi-Brute, Dino, Raybeam, etc. Or a 20K tungsten.


Oh, sorry. Here we go!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hUzzIGIqIs

5:38 to 5:42, 6:25 to 6:38, and 7:10 to 7:25 shows their primary lighting units. Identifying those would be really helpful.
Thanks! And thanks for the large area lighting tip!
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#6 David Mullen ASC

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 01:16 AM

Oh, sorry. Here we go!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hUzzIGIqIs

5:38 to 5:42, 6:25 to 6:38, and 7:10 to 7:25 shows their primary lighting units. Identifying those would be really helpful.
Thanks! And thanks for the large area lighting tip!


The lighting boxes look like Kino Wall-O-Lites (10-tube fixtures) with some gels on them for the sodium color -- the Wall-O-Lite is easier to rotate from vertical to horizontal compared to the Kino Image 80.

I don't know what the bright lights are in the far background on the cranes, could be anything.
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