Car interior / low contrast / green screenlow contrast night int.
Posted 18 December 2012 - 12:48 PM
I'm in preproduction of short film which will take place mostly in car at night.
We decided to shoot in studio with green screen / black screen.
My question is about contrast level in car. I'd like to create really low contrast feeling. To do that I need to rise light level in the car. This is my main problem.
How would you guys do that? I was thinking about putting 60cm Kino Flos banks rigged to celling with ND 0.6 and diff gel but it might look un natural.
I figured that bouncing light from foams around the car might be that what I'm looking for.
Another thing is to fake cars movement on an actors face but I have some ideas about that.
I'll be running on RED Scarlet and Canon L Primes mostly Wide open with ND. Mostly hand held
I didn't try anything like this before and all suggestions are welcome. I'm a little bit scared and excited at the same time.
Maybe some of you have had problems doing car interior scene ? I'd be really glad to hear those stories...
Thanks a lot and wish you all merry christmas and happy new year.
Posted 19 December 2012 - 12:30 AM
Posted 19 December 2012 - 05:03 AM
Action take place in Poland in 80's there were no lights in cars:) So my goal is to see every detail in the shadow just like the eye would.
So to do that on ISO 500 I have to rise ambience light level as much as I can since I do not want to use anything higher than 500 ISO on RED Scarlet. I don't want to have underexposed areas on the set. Maybe that sounds stupid but this is ow I feel this situation...
Anyway thanks for replay and I wish someone will guide me better than myself:)
Posted 21 December 2012 - 04:50 AM
Posted 21 December 2012 - 08:53 AM
anyway, put one12' bounce on either side of camera, and make sure the light is evenly spread over the whole bounce, no hot spots. then play with the levels until you have the level of contrast you like. you could then put some diffusion on the windows that are out of frame, just to smooth the light out even more, if you think that's what you need. you can then add in an edge light, and/or one of many possible moving lights to suggest movement, if you desire. there are tons of gags you can do with poor man's process, but the trick is to pick only one or two that really work, and do those.... you don't want too many bells and whistles or you will lose the organic feel.
alternatively, there are very thin led's - 1/4" (6mm) or so - that you can easily tape to the ceiling of the car, but i don't know if you have access to them where you are. they were first used in the film, "collateral", which if you haven't seen it, has a lot of night car interiors, and it may be a good reference for you. you can buy them on amazon (and lots of other places i'm sure) if that is an option for you:
good luck and have fun!
Posted 23 December 2012 - 10:04 PM
Thanks for advice!I decided with producer and director that we don't have time to do proper post production with green screen so I suggested doing it on Black screen. Shooting windows against black. Create some freeze on windows and simulate movemnt with moving top light ex. 2x 650W fresnell. The only one scene with green screen will be when camera is looking through front window.
So my clues are:
Put one big source 12x12 SilverGold bounce grid, probably tungstens source, 2x2KW on the other side of car I'm thinking of 1K hitting iregulary on dimmer. Bounced from a piece of foam, gelled with 1/4ctb.??
Build moving light rig 2x 650W (from the top).
Play around with fill / negative fill to adjust contrast.
See what gelles on windows might do.
PS. I liked "collateral" and car scenes in it. Thanks for reminding me about that!
All right I feel much better now. I say Merry Christmas to all of you and many thanks!