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#21 Heikki Repo

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 05:25 PM

There is now pricing of the first Wittnerchrome 200D films (vat included):

 

16mm

1R 100 ft: 49.90 EUR

1R 400 ft: 169.90 EUR

2R 100 ft: 56.90 EUR

2R 200 ft: 99.90 EUR

 

super-8 on core

238 ft: 49.90 EUR


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#22 David Owen James

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 11:44 PM

Has anyone shot and digitized some of the 16mm stock yet?


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Posted 21 April 2013 - 05:09 PM

Okay, Wittner has the price up for Wittnerchrome 200D in cartridges.

And.. well, to be honest I feel somewhat disappointed. I mean, if 72½ meters of this film costs 49,90 euros, how come one cartridge of about 16 meters length costs 22,90 €? Is the work involved really that high? The price per meter for bulk S-8 is 0,69 € and --- for cartridge -- 1,43 €.

I guess I better buy some refillable cartridges and try that approach.


Edited by Heikki Repo, 21 April 2013 - 05:11 PM.

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#24 Larry Wilson

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 07:49 AM

That looks pretty good. Looks like a faster version of E64T. Hopefully I should be able to get my hands on some of this stuff when Pro8mm puts it out. 


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#25 Heikki Repo

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 07:05 AM

Just for the record:

 

Wittner is now selling the unmodified AGFA Avichrome 200 in large amounts in 16mm and for quite a good price:

 

732 meters: 499,00 €

and when buying more than one package of 732 meters:
3 packages à 469,00 € 
5 packages à 419,00 €
10 packages à 379,00 €

 

What are the differences between this and Wittnerchrome 200D? Some have proposed that Wittnerchrome is lubed for motion picture use and for this reason plain Avichrome might not run as well. Caution might be necessary.


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#26 Prashantt Rai

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 10:15 AM

Friedmann,

 

thanks for sharing! man! even the second generation video looks awesome, I am dying to see how it might look on being scanned. Superb warms and reds. When is it hitting the market?

 

regards

 

Prashantt


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#27 Charles MacDonald

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 08:20 PM

Just for the record:

 

Wittner is now selling the unmodified AGFA Avichrome 200 in large amounts in 16mm and for quite a good price:

 

732 meters: 499,00 €

 

Some have proposed that Wittnerchrome is lubed for motion picture use and for this reason plain Avichrome might not run as well. Caution might be necessary.

is that price for 16mm perforated stock?  or just 16mm unperforated. I was under the oimpression that Wittner was sliting the stock from larger size (ie 35mm) and perfoarting it themselves.


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#28 Heikki Repo

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 05:40 AM

is that price for 16mm perforated stock?  or just 16mm unperforated. I was under the oimpression that Wittner was sliting the stock from larger size (ie 35mm) and perfoarting it themselves.

That's 1R (1 RA-2994) so yes, perforated stock.

 


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#29 Richard Hadfield

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 04:53 PM

That looks pretty good. Looks like a faster version of E64T. Hopefully I should be able to get my hands on some of this stuff when Pro8mm puts it out. 

This AGFA 200D film stock has been available for over a month in the U.S.  I purchased 1 roll in May for $25.50 , not including shipping.

 

I found out about this  U.S. retailer http://thereelimage....r-web-showroom/  by reading the Wittner website.

 

I suggest that you call to check on availbility, as the owner of The Reel Image , Steve Osborne, told me that he has run out of the stock 3 times. 

 

I think he gets weekly shipments.

 

Pro8mm will be selling the same stock for $45.00 including processing.


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#30 Will Montgomery

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 11:07 AM

What's that FujiFilm 100 the Reel Image is selling? Velvia 100? That would be fun to shoot...


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#31 David Cunningham

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 12:20 PM

I was wondering the same thing... will probably give them a call.


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#32 Will Montgomery

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 02:29 PM

The gentleman who runs Reel Image left me a voice mail last night, very kind and helpful. Looks like they will be a great place to pick up Super 8 reversal in the U.S.


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Posted 15 June 2013 - 08:27 AM

The gentleman who runs Reel Image left me a voice mail last night, very kind and helpful. Looks like they will be a great place to pick up Super 8 reversal in the U.S.

Did he mention what the Fuji stock was?? Very interested in both emulsions.


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#34 Larry Wilson

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 09:16 AM

Has to be Velvia 100.


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#35 Heikki Repo

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 11:38 AM

Wittner sells both Velvia 100 and Astia 100.


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#36 Richard Hadfield

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 12:18 PM

Wittner sells both Velvia 100 and Astia 100.

The Reel Image sells the Velvia 100D, not the Astia 100D.  

 

When I  ordered the Fujifilm 100, what I got in the mail was the Fujifilm Velvia 100D

 

http://thereelimage....r-web-showroom/

 

 

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#37 Larry Wilson

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 12:38 PM

I think that Astia 100 was finally discontinued a couple years back.

 

Are the Reel Image carts notched so that cameras can read them correctly? I might wanna give these a try.


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#38 Richard Hadfield

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 02:20 PM

I think that Astia 100 was finally discontinued a couple years back.

 

Are the Reel Image carts notched so that cameras can read them correctly? I might wanna give these a try.

The AGFA 200D is notched for 250D asa film (0.300 of an inch from the center of the Kodapak Cartridge).  This is obviously because there is no notch for 200D in the Kodak Super 8 Cartridge system.  The choice was either a 160D notch or a 250D notch or either overexpose the film or underexpose the film by 1/3 of a stop.  

 

Scroll down fro table of available notches for Kodak Cartridges: http://super8man.fil.../super8_35.html

 

I assume that the Fujifilm 100D Velvia is notched exactly like the Kodak Ektachrome 100D  (0.500 of an inch from the center of the Kodapak Cartridge).

 

.  I don't know for sure because I haven't opened that package yet.


Edited by Richard Hadfield, 15 June 2013 - 02:21 PM.

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#39 Heikki Repo

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 04:21 PM

I think that Astia 100 was finally discontinued a couple years back.

 

That's correct. However, Wittner seems to own some rolls of that material because they are selling it in S-8 cartridges.


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#40 Richard Tuohy

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 07:35 PM

Yes, the Aviphot is notched as 250d.  Daniel Wittner says they experimented with both options (160d and 250d) and found that while it didn't matter that much, 250d was on balance better.

The Velvia 100d and the Astia 100d are both notched the same as Ektachrome 100d.


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