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#1 Brian Drysdale

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 04:47 PM

It seems that RED is suing Sony over patent infringement.

 

http://www.deadline....as/#more-429289


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#2 Adrian Sierkowski

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 04:55 PM

I have the distinct feeling this might end badly for RED.


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#3 Matthew W. Phillips

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 05:15 PM

Desperate much?


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#4 Vadim Bobkovsky

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 12:37 AM

Let's see if they win this time, because Sony is no joke. It's not unheard of, though, Kodak lived on stuff like this for longer than I'm alive.


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#5 Keith Walters

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 06:04 PM

It seems that RED is suing Sony over patent infringement.

 

http://www.deadline....as/#more-429289

 

From the story:

"Days after settling an email-hacking lawsuit with rival camera makers ARRI..."

So when did that happen? The only reference I can find to such an event is on the Deadline Website.


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#6 Dom Jaeger

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 07:00 PM

From the story:

"Days after settling an email-hacking lawsuit with rival camera makers ARRI..."

So when did that happen? The only reference I can find to such an event is on the Deadline Website.

 

You've gotta look further than REDuser for all your news Keith!  :P

 

http://cinescopophil...with-prejudice/

http://nofilmschool....-f55-f5-camera/


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#7 Brian Drysdale

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 07:24 PM

http://nofilmschool....-f55-f5-camera/

 

The SI-2K uses the Cineform Raw, which is mentioned here, presumably you'd be safe using that. If as it's suggested, it's about compressed RAW, I assume the Cineform RAW was around as a product when the RED patent was filed. 


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#8 Keith Walters

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 12:12 AM

You've gotta look further than REDuser for all your news Keith!  :P

 

http://cinescopophil...with-prejudice/

http://nofilmschool....-f55-f5-camera/

Tee bloody hee...

Those articles appeared after my post...

Well anyway, business as usual Plaintiff: 0, Defendant: 0, Lawyers $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

 

WTF times 20,000?!

RED are claiming to have invented a Video Camera...?

http://www.google.co...tents/US8358357

Like, a video camera? The one thing all the Reduser Chuckleheads emphatically insist the RED cameras are not! :blink:


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#9 Brian Drysdale

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 08:47 AM

The patent seems to centre around at least 4K compressed RAW, so that would take the SI-2K out of any conflict.


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#10 Keith Walters

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 09:15 PM

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#11 rob spence

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 02:05 PM

Even more ridiculous things have happened...like the time arri took aaton to court over a swivelling eyepiece.


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#12 Brian Drysdale

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 03:49 PM

Patents allow you to protect your intellectual property. I believe the Aaton V/F was being able to flip it from one side to the other, which was in the Arri patent, although I gather you could break a pin in your new camera to achieve this function if you wanted to. Possibly the best well known industry patent was for the Steadicam, which was defended on a number of occasions.


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#13 rob spence

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 12:56 PM

Absolutely. les bosher told me that aaton got round the problem by fitting the tension screw to the eyepiece. that did it apparently.


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