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#1 Francisco Martins

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 07:51 PM

Hey guys,

 

You've probably seen me post something similar to this in the past. I'm trying to lock down on a particular look inspired by the film The Crow: City of Angels (the closes example I can provide), a less harsh and more romantic version of its sodium lights-based palette compatible with Ultra16mm Kodak Vision 3 250D and 500T. I need some more advice, please... And I greatly appreciate your time and contributions. Thank you all so much!

 

1) Regarding achieving the sodium vapor color via gels on tungsten sources, I've read the following recommendations/formulas:

== 2 layers LEE 162 Bastard Amber + 1 layer ¼ CTO **One layer of Bastard Amber instead produces a warmer look.**

== LEE 232 Super White Flame Green

== LEE Apricot 147 + Rosco Cal color Yellow 15
     (Paul Cameron)
== Rosco 15 + 1/4 CTO
     (Wally Pfister in Batman Begins)

== 1/2 or 1/4 CTO + 013 Straw with some magenta correction for a little more pink for a strict match

     (Roger Deakins in No Country for Old Men)

== ½ CTS + ½ CTO + ½ CTB + ½ Plus Green
     (JD Hartman on these forums)

 

What gels would achieve the more intensely colored shots?

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And the warmer shots with less yellow on the actor's faces?

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2) What color backlight/rimlight/kicker is utilized here (and in above examples)?

Sometimes it appears white, other times I've seen green ala mercury vapor lights used. I'm wondering what would look best, what would balance out the yellow.

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3) Previously, David Mullen identified the types of lights used as amber-lit KINOs with gels on them, ala the Wall-O-Lite, and big soft sidelights and big top lights.  If I were unable to get a hold of such lights, would regular fresnel lamps work? With regular softboxes? Or would fresnels through or bounced into diffusion suffice?

 

4) And what kind of lighting power/lights would be needed to light up fog like this?

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Edited by Francisco Martins, 03 April 2013 - 07:54 PM.

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#2 Francisco Martins

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 12:38 PM

So I dont suppose anyone would know which of those listed gel combination formulas would bring me closest to the look Im trying to get?


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#3 Rudy Velez Jr

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Posted 30 May 2013 - 04:30 AM

Great question, its a cool look


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#4 Maciej Puczynski

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Posted 16 June 2013 - 06:15 PM

Hello there, your search is very inspiring. I think however, that the question sholud sound: whom to contact, to get the biggest amount of gels in one place to test before the shoot. I suppose there's no better way than testing and looking, which leads to your own, personal findings, coming out from a reference.

 

Having seen though, that the post is few months old, I'm curious to see, what are your results?

 

Best of luck,

M.


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