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#1 Freya Black

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 04:32 AM

You probably already all know this already but Blackmagic are about to announce the Blackmagic production camera 4k. A 4k camera for 4k. ($4000) with ACTIVE MFT mount

 

Also the pocket cinema camera for $999. Yes that is only 3 digits.

 

I'm working on a little red shark thing about it but the editor is asleep in Vegas and I wanted to share! :)

 

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#2 Freya Black

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 09:33 AM

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#3 Oliver Hadlow Martin

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 09:34 AM

Aren't people still waiting for the 2k model to ship? 

 

I'd be pissed if I ordered a year ago and still didn't have it then they come out with this..


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Posted 08 April 2013 - 09:34 AM

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#5 Christopher Sheneman

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 05:14 PM

Aren't people still waiting for the 2k model to ship? 

 

I'd be pissed if I ordered a year ago and still didn't have it then they come out with this..

 

Probably not as pissed as hitler!


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Posted 08 April 2013 - 05:37 PM

And there is the issue - does it really resolve 4K?  Or far less than that (likely)


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Posted 08 April 2013 - 05:51 PM

I know I am trying to change my order (from the 2.5K micro 4/3 to the pocket camera).

4 grand for 4K is tempting, but I'll wait until they are taking orders for the version with a proper PL mount (or someone sets up an aftermarket modification service).

What a great use for all that great Super 16 glass that is floating around.
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#8 Adrian Sierkowski

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 12:09 PM

I'm thinking the same thing Dwight. I canceled my BMCC-MFT order as soon as I saw these, because, well I don't NEED it, yet, and I can't justify re-investing in lenses when I have a set of S16 glass sitting in a case. 'Course, lord knows when it'll actually ship and with something that small i worry about overheating ect... but or 1K I figure I can take the risk and make the money back be either reselling if I hate it, or on one or two rentals/kit fees.


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Posted 09 April 2013 - 12:17 PM

I think the little camera is going to be awesome. It's little and cute. It shoots in 1080p pro-res so straightforward for post and yes huge choice of lenses.

 

The only major bad I'm seeing is the microphone socket instead of a line in. :(

 

Sound may be an issue.

 

Don't forget to check out my new article! :)

 

2 new cameras from Blackmagic. Earth wobbles twice on its axis.

 

http://www.redsharkn...ice-on-its-axis

 

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#10 Adrian Sierkowski

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 12:18 PM

Sound is always an issue. If I'm ever on a set where sound isn't in some way screwing things up, I think I may die!


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Posted 09 April 2013 - 02:10 PM

The official specs seem to indicate you can switch it to line level which might be great! Depends on if the mic-pre still generates noise.

 

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#12 Adrian Sierkowski

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 03:37 PM

Personally, so long as I can get some reference audio; I'm happy and will run dlb system-- or even w/o reference audio but then again I'm used to film.


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Posted 09 April 2013 - 06:45 PM

From what I saw there is no timecode as well... I understand that they want to keep it small and cheap but why make an expansion connection that I can add all those "pro" features (ie xlr audio inputs, timecode, usb connection for a mini bluetooth keyboard for metadata input, etc) I think that would make this a "real" camera that totally usable in the field with multi able cameras...

 

Just a thought.  


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#14 Henrik A Meyer

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 11:20 PM

Do someone know where there is a good test of it:-)?

 

 

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#15 Peter J DeCrescenzo

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 02:57 AM

Do someone know where there is a good test of it:-)?

 

The new cameras are still in early beta, so no footage yet.

 

John Brawley is testing them during their development. Read his detailed article on his blog:

http://johnbrawley.w...of-the-orginal/

 

And see also:

http://www.cinematog...showtopic=59502


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#16 Adrian Sierkowski

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 06:21 AM

from what I understand the pocket camera, at least, seems to be the same sensor family as the 2.5K so i'd expect very similar performance. the 4K well...who knows.


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Posted 10 April 2013 - 07:19 AM

Hey guys.

Yeshhh! I'm about to order mine.
But first, dumb question for some.... Trying to figure out the possibilities using STANDARD 16mm Lenses.
There's a limit, I know. But I wonder in this S16 sensor of the pocket camera, what would be the widest 16mm could be used on this little wonder?
Also, would be possible to use an adapter for the Arri ST Lens on it?

Thanks!
 


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#18 Christopher Sheneman

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 07:24 AM

My computer almost exploded trying to watch the 4K on chrome..and I got a fast one two.


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Posted 10 April 2013 - 08:38 AM

Hey guys.

Yeshhh! I'm about to order mine.
But first, dumb question for some.... Trying to figure out the possibilities using STANDARD 16mm Lenses.
There's a limit, I know. But I wonder in this S16 sensor of the pocket camera, what would be the widest 16mm could be used on this little wonder?
Also, would be possible to use an adapter for the Arri ST Lens on it?

Thanks!

 

 

As I remember they used to say that you were safe down to about 25mm, beyond that it would depends on the lens.

Arri ST should be no problem if you can find the right adapter. The advantage of mft mount is that it is a very shallow mount and so can take a lot of different lenses via adapters. This is the big reason I'm really excited by it.

 

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#20 Francisco Martins

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 12:37 PM

So the new 4K Blackmagic could handle a 10-100 Zeiss lens made for Standard 16mm given a proper mount?


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