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how can I get a little more light in his eyes, but maintain the same look?


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#1 Iain Browne

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 03:22 PM

Shot this mostly as an exercise the other day. I really like the look of it, but I think I need just a little more light in his eyes. How would you do that without really introducing any shadows or changing the contrast too much?

 

It's just two lights, a 500 watt bounced from the right, and a 250 watt bounced from the left. The windows made for a nice back light.

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#2 Adrian Sierkowski

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 04:34 PM

Small very dim bulb right in front of his eyes. Something I may do would be a tiny little 150 w dimmed down bouncing into a white card. The thing is eyes are very reflective, so you often just need a white thing in front of them which they can reflect.


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#3 David Mullen ASC

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 04:43 PM

You just need a good angle of reflection for the eye light, it doesn't have to be bright.  Often I put something right under the lens like a 1'x1' Litepanel dimmed way down, or a Litepanel Micro. But anything would work, a bare light bulb even, it just needs to be next to the lens, and if the person has a heavy brow and tends to look down, you're more likely to get the reflection if the light is under the lens rather than over the lens, though on a long lens from farther back, it matters less whether the eye light is over or under.  A larger source like a bounce into a card creates a bigger reflection but it also tends to spread around more.


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#4 Adrian Sierkowski

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 05:01 PM

You know, it may just be me, but I am never really happy with the way a bare bulb looks in the eyes especially on digital. I always feel it's too small of a point most of the time. China ball can be nice; but of course, as mentioned spread becomes a problem especially with digital which tend to dig more into the shadows or so I observe.


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 06:16 PM

Yes, a bare bulb is a tiny reflection but in a tight close-up, that may be enough. This is one reason I like the 1'x1' Litepanel, the reflection is large enough to be seen, but not too large, plus it can take an egg crate grid and can be battery-operated. Plus is flat-enough to fit under a lens without sticking out too far, unlike a Rifa, which I also use sometimes.


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#6 Adrian Sierkowski

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 06:28 PM

I'll have to try an LED sometime. Before the move I had build a little box; maybe 6" long and 4" high out of foamcore into which I'd put a small 25W bulb with some diffusion on the front, whatever scrap I had handy which I'd tape onto the matte-box on occasion. Obviously rather delicate hence it didn't make the trip (and I had to make a few of them here and again) but i always liked it. Never went to make it battery powered though-- perhaps time for a v2.


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 08:18 PM

Here are two frames that show the use of the Rifa 44 under the lens for an eye light:

 

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#8 Franz Salvatierra

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 02:22 PM

You can also put up a silk and shoot through it away from set(hopefully out the window or something). The big bright spot will be in there, not the light. 


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