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#1 David Nethery

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 09:16 PM

Scored a couple of cameras at an estate sale for practically nothing :

 

Nizo S 480   Great camera , many features.  (slow motion 54fps ,  fade-in/fade-out , cross dissolve , time-lapse , nice Schneider Variogon lens )   http://super8wiki.co....php/Nizo_S_480

 

and  Elmo 240 XLS   .  Simple camera,  18 fps only ,  but has Auto & Manual exposure .   A nice  "back-up" camera.

http://super8wiki.co...p/Elmo_240_S-XL

 

 

 

(only interesting thing about Elmos 240 XLS is it is one of the cameras that was built to take the Kodak 200 ft. cartridges , which is of course irrelevant now .   Also it is a VERY QUIET camera compared to most Super-8 cameras ,  which could make it a good choice as a back-up camera for a wedding cinematographer)

 

 

Here are some issues I hope someone can advise me on:

 

1.)  The Nizo S 480 did not come with a user's manual, so I'm having to piece things together from the internet.  I haven't found a complete user's manual download yet .

 

QUESTION for anyone who has owned a Nizo S 480 :  Does the manual exposure over-ride on the Nizo 480 not respond if the exposure meter doesn't have the PX625 batteries inserted (or rather the WeinCell MRB625 Replacement Batteries) ?

 

Everything else seems to be working .  Viewfinder is bright ,  lens is clean , no visible scratches, fungus,  or fogging.    The battery chamber is clean , no corrosion or rust , and I inserted the AA batteries.   The motor runs nice and smooth , power zoom works .   But I don't have any WeinCell MRB625 batteries on hand for the internal light meter .   (will go to the photo store on Monday to get those)   So obviously I realize the Auto Exposure won't register anything without batteries ,  but what I notice is that right now if I switch it to Manual Exposure that I get NO MOVEMENT of the needle up and down the F-stop scale .  Nothing happens.   Is that normal if there are no MRB625 batteries inserted ?   Or did I get a camera that appears cosmetically just about "perfect" ,  but the manual exposure is not functioning ?

 

2. )  The Elmo 240 XLS -    Put the batteries in .   Motor runs ,  the power zoom works,  all appears to work.  (obviously nothing is for sure until I run test film through it and see the results) .

 

However, I noticed immediately that the black foam rubber seals around the film chamber door and film chamber window have turned to black goop .  The black foam rubber falls apart if I touch it .  Obviously this needs to be scraped off and replaced.   What should I replace the deterioted foam rubber  with?    Can I just cut thin strips of black foam or silicone or something like that and glue them on along the edges to form a light-tight seal ?   I'm not too heavily invested in it ,  but would like to replace the rotted foam sealing .

 

 

 

Any ideas ?  

 

 

Thanks.


Edited by David Nethery, 20 July 2013 - 09:21 PM.

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#2 David Nethery

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 09:40 PM

One more thing  about the Nizo S 480 :

 

The switch for the Daylight ("sun")  and Tungsten ("light bulb" ) is very sticky and difficult to move .    If I choose to leave it one or the other positions , which is the best position to leave it "stuck" on  ?      Would I be better off to leave it on Tungsten ("light bulb")  and use a screw on daylight 85a filter  over the front of the lens if I want to shoot in daylight ?

 

I've read that some people open up their Super-8's and remove the internal 85a filter entirely (since these tend to deterioate with age)  ,  and simply use a screw on filter for shooting in daylight.    Is this advisable with the Nizo S 480 ?   I'm not sure about attempting to disassemble it to do this or if I should just leave it in the tungsten position ("light bulb") and  simply use the 85a screw on filter.


Edited by David Nethery, 20 July 2013 - 09:40 PM.

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#3 David Nethery

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 04:29 PM

Well, more checking around revealed the answers :

 

Nizo S480 -

 

YES,  the Nizo S480 MUST have the WeinCell MRB625 batteries  inserted for the Manual Exposure to work.

 

YES,  I should just leave the filter setting on Tungsten  and use an 85a filter over the lens when shooting in daylight.  (rather than fight with the sticky switch on the Nizo and also to avoid any potential problems from the internal gelatin daylight filter which may have deteriorated with age)

 

 

 

Elmo 240XL -

 

For the rotting foam rubber on the Elmo 240XL door and film window I found a suggestion to cut thin strips from a mouse pad  or to use   'Lily Sugar n' Cream'  black cotton crochet yarn, product #CA00111

 

Thanks to this website of Matt Denton's:   http://mattsclassicc...repairtips.html

 

 

"Strips of mousepad (neoprene rubber) carefully cut using an X-acto knife and a metal straightedge for the film door mating grooves in the camera body.   If you cut the mouse pad strips a little wide and stretch them they'll fit in the grooves without any adhesive But then I discovered  'Lily Sugar n' Cream' black cotton crochet yarn, product #CA00111. Just like you see in the old German cameras!   Quicker and easier, just as permanent.    Seems to stay without glue, but I recommend hitting it with at least a tiny spot of Pliobond on each end."

 

 

 

One thing I'm not wild about on the Nizo S480's design is the rear-loading cartridge , which makes it difficult to access the film gate for cleaning (with a soft bristle toothbrush) .   However that was solved by putting a bend in the plastic toothbrush handle , so the brush is now at the right angle to reach in to give the gate a gentle wipe.

 

 

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Edited by David Nethery, 21 July 2013 - 04:29 PM.

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