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#1 Gavin Hardy

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 06:07 AM

Hi all, I'm new to Super 8 so forgive me for asking this! Just got a Nizo 481, put some Kodak Tri-X in the back (it only goes in one way, otherwise the door doesn't close, worked that bit out!) but it kind of just sits in there lose. I thought it would click in but it doesn't. Plus if I open the back door it can just put which doesn't seem right to me.
Can someone kindly point out my no doubt amateur error!
Thank you,
Gavin
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#2 Gavin Hardy

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 06:09 AM

Apologies for the typo's, it should read that when I open the door it can just drop out
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#3 David Nethery

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 10:51 AM

Hi all, I'm new to Super 8 so forgive me for asking this! Just got a Nizo 481, put some Kodak Tri-X in the back (it only goes in one way, otherwise the door doesn't close, worked that bit out!) but it kind of just sits in there loose. I thought it would click in but it doesn't.  Plus if I open the back door it can just put which doesn't seem right to me.
Can someone kindly point out my no doubt amateur error!
Thank you,
Gavin

 

 

Apologies for the typo's, it should read that when I open the door it can just drop out

 

 

 

I am not sure what the problem is you are describing.   Do you mean the door will not close (latch) properly when you insert the film cartridge ?

 

Loading the camera is simple:   slide the cartridge in (film facing forward)   and then close the door .  Make sure the door is closed all the way, the latch should "click" closed and door should stay closed .     The metal spring piece on the interior of the door will push the cartridge all the way forward in the chamber so the film is pushed up flat against the film gate.

 

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You can find the user manual here:

 

http://super8arena.c...era_manuals.php


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#4 Jean-Louis Seguin

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 11:05 AM

The film compartment of the Nizo is angled slightly, so the cassette actually slides in at an angle.

When the door is closed, it pushes the cassette in all the way and straightens it out so it aligns with the gate.

 

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#5 Gavin Hardy

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Posted 18 August 2013 - 07:02 AM

Hi , thanks for the replies.

Basically when I put the cartridge in it's very wobbly, and when I open the door it can drop out if I tilt the camera back. I guess I was looking for a satisfying click that lets me know the film is properly loaded, but judging from the comments, closing the door is what secures it in place?
I guess I'm trying to avoid wasting the first roll if film, but it's the only way I'll find out if it works!

Gav
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#6 David Nethery

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Posted 18 August 2013 - 02:35 PM

Hi , thanks for the replies.

Basically when I put the cartridge in it's very wobbly, and when I open the door it can drop out if I tilt the camera back. I guess I was looking for a satisfying click that lets me know the film is properly loaded, but judging from the comments, closing the door is what secures it in place?
I guess I'm trying to avoid wasting the first roll if film, but it's the only way I'll find out if it works!

Gav

 

 

Yes , the metal spring on the interior of the door will seat the cartridge correctly in the chamber.    It's good that it pops out easily when you tilt the camera back slightly because this makes it easy and fast to change cartridges .

 

I have a Nizo 480  (similar to your Nizo 481)  .  The only thing I don't like about it is the back-loading of the film because it is more difficult to access the film gate for cleaning with a soft brush .    To me that is the only design flaw of the Nizo 480 and similar cameras .   I like that the side-loading cameras I have owned  (Canon 814, Canon 514 , Nikon R8)  offer easy access to clean the gate   , but in every other respect I love the design and functionality of Nizo.

 

 

 

I guess I'm trying to avoid wasting the first roll if film, but it's the only way I'll find out if it works

 

 

 

If you are worried that the cartridge is not seated correctly and that the film is not advancing properly , you can test it by making a black dot with an ink pen (Sharpie)  on the middle of the film in the exposed part of the cartridge at the beginning .  Insert the cartridge and press the trigger of a second to advance the film.    Then remove the cart to see that the black dot is no longer visible on the film, which will confirm for you that the film is advancing properly.     The meter on the left side of the camera will also show that the film is advancing properly . 

 

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#7 Gavin Hardy

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Posted 18 August 2013 - 05:06 PM

Hi, really appreciate the advice. It seems to be all good, the little counter is tracking how much film I've used as described above.

Now to search where the best place in the UK is to get it developed.
Cheers,
Gav
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#8 Anthony Schilling

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Posted 18 August 2013 - 06:23 PM

Hi , thanks for the replies.

Basically when I put the cartridge in it's very wobbly, and when I open the door it can drop out if I tilt the camera back. I guess I was looking for a satisfying click that lets me know the film is properly loaded, but judging from the comments, closing the door is what secures it in place?
I guess I'm trying to avoid wasting the first roll if film, but it's the only way I'll find out if it works!

Gav

That's how it is with the Nizo. i've had a few and they are all like that. The cart has some wiggle room before you close the door. It's held tight once you close the door and the tension leaf on the inside of door pushes the cart firmly on the gate.


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#9 Gavin Hardy

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 02:04 PM

Cheers Anthony, and everyone.
Out of interest, where do I folk get your film developed?
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#10 Heikki Repo

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 06:32 PM

Here's one UK based company: http://www.gaugefilm...processing.html


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