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#1 Ravel Mohikaner

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 03:47 PM

Hey! First post on here! 

 

Im shooting a short in a couple of weeks and this is the first time i am using film as i am of the digital generation.

 

However, this project requires me to shoot on a AATON LTR super16mm film camera.

 

The project is a noir-style comedy flick and i want to film out in the city at night, only using already existing light(from stores, signs, stoplights, etc) looking for a smooth, cinematic look with as little grain and texture possible.

 

Any advice/tips/experience is received with great gratitude! 

 

Thanks for answers in advance.

 

Mucho love from a slightly confused film student! 


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#2 David Mullen ASC

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 05:09 PM

Your only choice really is Kodak 500T now, so get some fast primes.

 

I mean, if you want really low grain but high sensitivity, you should be shooting either in digital or a bigger film format -- if you want to shoot in available light at night, you're going to have to embrace the grain of 500T, which isn't too bad in Super-16, but I wouldn't call it fine or low in graininess.  To avoid underexposure and/or pushing the stock, you're going to want to carry very fast prime lenses.


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#3 Matt Stevens

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 08:44 PM

I love Super16 and I love 500T. One would have the embrace the grain and plan the look around it. 


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#4 Philip Kral

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 05:42 AM

If you could, I'd try shooting after a rainfall (Or wet the area if you had the ability). But that might not be one of your options.

 

I'd also say to try and overexpose the 500T a bit.... but chances are you'll be shooting wide open anyway.

 

Just my 2 cents.


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#5 Chris Burke

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 09:05 AM

Like everyone else has said, fast primes. I have shot plenty with that very camera with 500t inside. Light it the way you want and voila. 7219 really very easy to get proper exposure. No need to worry at all, if you light to a  higher f stop the shadows drop off into black very nicely. Deep dark black, rather clean. With fast primes, you could also get away with the 200t. With proper lighting, not more, it will give you a noir look right out of the box.


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Posted 21 August 2013 - 09:45 AM

Sorry I skimmed through the thread and just noticed you saying that you are going to shoot existing light only. 500t for sure. If you could, have a Locaster or copy on a boom pole ready with lots of batteries. It can give you just the amount of fill you might need. Easily stands by.


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#7 Will Montgomery

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 03:53 PM

Embrace the grain.

 

That would make a good t-shirt.


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