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#1 Mason Smith

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Posted 04 December 2013 - 02:04 PM

Hello guys I'm a film student and I'm having trouble understanding cinematography (lighting) with figuring out where the light is coming from, the direction. Also what kind of mood and contrast is in the picture.  Ex where the fill light, key light, and back light. If you can help me with this picture it'll be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much for your help. ( shutter island)

 

http://www.imdb.com/...mi_mi_all_sf_15


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#2 jeff woods

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Posted 04 December 2013 - 02:33 PM

Robert Richardson shot this, and one of his "trademarks" is using PARs as a harsh toplight/pool-of-light. 

 

In that photo (understanding that this is purely my interpretation) it looks like DiCaprio is standing halfway inside the beam, and the fill on Kingsley's face is comning from DiCaprio's shirt. He is also getting a rimlight from the same PAR, just not as directly as DiCaprio.

 

The fill coming from the camera side could be bounce from the floor, or an actual bounce (showcard, muslin, white reflector).

 

And by keeping the ceiling lights in the background, he motivates (read: explains) where the light is coming from.

 

Again, one man's opinion,

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#3 Adrian Sierkowski

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Posted 05 December 2013 - 05:34 AM

I'd buy what Jeff is selling. Though I'd wager a bit higher on the fill being from a well placed card -v- the actual floor.


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Posted 05 December 2013 - 06:01 AM

I'll add the obvious- if you can see them, zoom in and look at the catchlights in the eyes. You can often get an idea of the angle and nature of the light source. You can see a hint of the fill in Ben Kingsley's eye- I'd agree with Adrian and say a large card, or even a metallised reflector,  off to the lower left. Di Caprio is getting a little of it.


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Posted 06 December 2013 - 06:51 AM

Robert Richardson shot this, and one of his "trademarks" is using PARs as a harsh toplight/pool-of-light. 

 

In that photo (understanding that this is purely my interpretation) it looks like DiCaprio is standing halfway inside the beam, and the fill on Kingsley's face is comning from DiCaprio's shirt. He is also getting a rimlight from the same PAR, just not as directly as DiCaprio.

 

The fill coming from the camera side could be bounce from the floor, or an actual bounce (showcard, muslin, white reflector).

 

And by keeping the ceiling lights in the background, he motivates (read: explains) where the light is coming from.

 

Again, one man's opinion,

-j

 

Bingo. I worked  as a day playing electric on "Shutter Island" and can personally attest that the scene was lit almost exclusively with Par Cans (you can see them in the background of this shot.) The scene was filmed in the basement of a building at a decommissioned  State Pysch Hospital in Medfield, MA. Since it was the basement there was only about 12' clearance. The Par Cans were rigged  on speedrail that spanned from column to column, which put the lamp at no more than 10' off the ground. They were lamped with 1kw Par 64 Wide lamps, so they were screaming on the talent. At only a distance of 3', I am still surprised that Leonardo DiCaprio's hat didn't catch fire. There were cots with white sheets and blankets set up through out the basement to dress it as a hospital ward. If I recall correctly the bounce of the Par Cans off the cots and off of Ben Kingsley's white lab coat is all the bounce there was. What you see reflected in Kingsley's eye is the cot that they are standing by.

 

Guy Holt, Gaffer, ScreenLight & Grip, Lighting Rental and Sales in Boston 


Edited by Guy Holt, 06 December 2013 - 06:54 AM.

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