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#1 Bill DiPietra

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Posted 17 December 2013 - 02:15 PM

I ordered a few rolls of 16mm (UN54) and ORWO says this film can be processed as either negative or reversal.  I was wondering if anyone has had this film processed as negative and, if so, what kind of results they yielded.

 

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#2 Stefan Arend

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Posted 17 December 2013 - 03:23 PM

Hi, 

 

Orwo UN54 is very good when it is processed as negative stock. That´s the way I use it. 


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#3 Bill DiPietra

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Posted 17 December 2013 - 03:58 PM

Great!  Thanks a lot.  Looking forward to testing it.


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#4 John Jaquish

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Posted 17 December 2013 - 08:42 PM

Hi Bill -- all the daylight exterior scenes were shot on ORWO UN54 (35mm) in this short: https://vimeo.com/69522462 (and processed as a negative, by the way). I've also started to use it for still film with good results. 


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#5 Bill DiPietra

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Posted 17 December 2013 - 08:51 PM

Thanks, John.  Very nice images, by the way.


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#6 Simon Wyss

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Posted 18 December 2013 - 02:08 AM

You can reverse-process almost every black-and-white film, exception are the so-called direct reversal stocks like Eastman 7361 (discontinued). Downright reversal films must be reverse-processed or you won’t see a thing due to the black subbing they have.

 

Only to repeat what comes up here and then time and again, negative stocks like Orwo UN 54 have a grey base that acts as anti-halo protection. The lightest parts of reversal positive images therefore are hidden behind the grey veil. In other words: white clouds, for example, aren’t white but grey.


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#7 Larry S Moses

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Posted 09 July 2016 - 10:40 AM

I am selling custom loaded super 8 cartridges loaded with ORWO UN54 & Fomapan R100.

http://www.ebay.com/...vkAAOSwkl5XfSBl

http://www.ebay.com/...8kAAOSwvg9XfROu


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#8 Larry Wilson

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Posted 26 August 2016 - 10:36 PM

Can this stock be processed at someplace like, say, Spectra Film and Video in North Hollywood? I'd like to use some of the stocks not offered in the US, but I don't know how compatible they are with the Kodak chemistry...


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#9 John Hyde

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Posted 23 September 2016 - 07:21 PM

Spectra does a great job on Foma and ORWO.  Regular Kodak Tri-X looks amazing and very clean.  They have their own chemical formulation which combines a bit of new and old ideas for excellent results on all fronts.


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#10 Robert Houllahan

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Posted 24 September 2016 - 01:33 PM

The nice thing about Orwo is that it runs in either the Reversal or B&W negative baths just like Kodak where Foma has a softer emulsion and needs a change of settings on the film processor to keep the emulsion on the base.

 

B&W reversal problems are almost always to do with the bleach and we run a mix of Kodak and Clayton chemistry similarly to what Spectra does, we helped them out with their bleach at one point.


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#11 Bill DiPietra

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Posted 24 September 2016 - 01:37 PM

Anyone have any recent results of Orwo 16mm that they can share?...


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#12 Jeffrey Grant

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Posted 16 December 2016 - 12:49 PM

Thank you for this post. I have often wondered about the results of Orwo UN54 processed as a negative. Spectra recently processed 2 loads of Orwo UN54 as positive and I was very pleased with the results. I have seen too many examples of poor processing from other vendors and will stick with these guys. Just a question on what might be the advantage of telecine process on the negative versus the reversal? 


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Posted 19 December 2016 - 05:03 PM

I always process ORWO as negative, have not even tried reversal processing with it because all my films go to telecine/scanning and negative is so much easier to work with. 

One of the benefits of lower contrast negative is that technical grade transfer is much faster to do and therefore cheaper. the film is also more compatible with low end + mid range systems which have difficulties of capturing the full dynamic range of the reversal. 

 

if you are working with, for example, a Spirit, it may save lots of time in transfer to use negative instead of reversal. you also have more options to manipulate the grain texture and contrast with special processing + varying developers if you are using negative, the reversal process is more restrictive in this regard


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#14 Michael Carter

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Posted 07 April 2017 - 05:50 PM

I just processed it and posted a sample. https://www.facebook.../?ref=bookmarks
A different clip is on https://www.facebook.../?ref=bookmarks
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#15 Michael Carter

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Posted 07 April 2017 - 09:32 PM

It was difficult to find out how to do it. But it turned out to be easy and inexpensive. I plan on printing it.

Edited by Michael Carter, 07 April 2017 - 09:36 PM.

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#16 Michael Carter

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Posted 13 April 2017 - 05:02 PM

It prints nicely. The print stock is DP3 and is less gray than the UN54.
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