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#1 pierre robichaud

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Posted 21 February 2014 - 07:54 PM

Hi All,

I'm always amazed at Lawrence of Arabia. It is stunning. Freddie Young BSC did amazing work and I'm particularly drawn to these types of shots. Anyone have any other examples from films that are well done? Would love to see them.

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#2 Mei Lewis

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Posted 22 February 2014 - 09:51 AM

There are many scenes in breaking bad lit somewhat like this, specifically how the light is very spotty and deliberately 'bad' in some way - the bright patch on the middle of his jacket and a bit of light on the side of his face and ear. Not conventionally beautiful lighting.

 

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#3 pierre robichaud

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Posted 22 February 2014 - 11:27 AM

Hi Mei

Thanks for the example. But, I wouldn't call the original example bad lighting. I think it's very beautiful. It's very stylized. It's an old Hollywood form of highlighting the eyes-very dramatic. Used in noir movies a lot. I'm trying to build on a series of examples. Here is Freddie Young BSC again in Dr. Zhivago when he reteamed with David Lean.

 

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#4 David Mullen ASC

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Posted 22 February 2014 - 01:41 PM

He meant the lighting in "Breaking Bad" when he wrote "breaking bad lit".


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Posted 22 February 2014 - 02:25 PM

I love what Freddie Young did in both Lawrence and Zhivago . The sad thing nowadays you are not allowed the hours to light close ups with such detail . Lawrence was shot over two years waiting for the correct light and shooting in 65mm if you have that luxury i would expect stunning images .
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#6 Mei Lewis

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Posted 23 February 2014 - 05:01 PM

Thanks David, I should have capitalised that better!


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#7 Derek Stettler

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 12:33 PM

Hi Pierre, I too love this kind of lighting. Here's another great example for you, from Gladiator, shot by John Mathieson, BSC: 

 

http://evanerichards...ladiator290.jpg

 

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 12:43 PM

And in this case it's not just for narrative and dramatic implications, but it has a realistic physical basis in the scene's environment:

 

http://evanerichards...ladiator289.jpg


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#9 Mark Dunn

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 02:14 PM

Cookies went out of fashion somewhat after that. They work on those great films but I don't think they'd fit in nowadays.


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#10 Derek Stettler

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 03:52 PM

Fit in? How so? Isn't that a bit like saying hard backlight is out of fashion and wouldn't fit in nowadays?

 

These are all just techniques based on what occurs in nature, and should be used when appropriate to create a storytelling effect; regardless of what's "in fashion".


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#11 pierre robichaud

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 04:59 PM

Derek

Thanks for jumping in! I feel the same way. Not to mention I'm not interested so much in following "fashion."

Here is a refined version I found from Schindler's List-Janusz Kominski ASC

 

Oh BTW Derek. The links to your samples were broken. Would love to see what you've found.

Best,

 

 

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#12 Derek Stettler

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 06:27 PM

Thanks for letting me know about the links, since they worked for me. Here are the first two images:

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#13 Derek Stettler

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 06:29 PM

And here is the other one:

 

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#14 pierre robichaud

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 06:55 PM

Thanks for those Derek. Very nice!


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