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#1 Matthew Kerins

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 07:30 AM

Hi! I'm doing my dissertation on film vs digital. I've done my research and would love to hear people's opinions. If anybody knows any industry professionals that would like to help me out that would be great. Just to simply offer their opinion on the matter. My question is just Film vs digital, the advantages and disadvantages of each one, which is superior? and why? What do you prefer? and why? 

Thanks alot in advance. 

 

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#2 Matthew W. Phillips

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 12:32 PM

Your dissertation sounds a lot like that Keanu Reeves documentary.


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#3 Dan Dorland

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Posted 11 April 2014 - 01:17 AM

"Side by Side"

http://www.imdb.com/...8/?ref_=nv_sr_1

 

Keanu Reeves also wrote a nice companion article for The Guardian about the topic.

http://www.theguardi...uture-of-cinema

 

Just a side note: I wrote a similar paper for an English class once, and ended up having too much to write about. You may want to clarify what part of  the pipeline you are writing on for digital vs. film - Production, DI, Distribution...


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#4 timHealy

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Posted 12 April 2014 - 01:45 PM

As part of your research, I would suggest trying to shoot a few frames of film and a few frames of video (well more than a few), both static and moving shots, maybe vary frame rates and see how things expose and move both projected on a large screen and on a monitor. Play with filters on the lens and diffusion on the lights, etc, etc. And go through the post process as well.

 

This would not be a small undertaking if you did it right.

 

Best

 

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#5 Vadim Joy

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Posted 14 April 2014 - 01:41 PM

Film is past, digital is present. One day digital will be compared to something else. 


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#6 Matthew W. Phillips

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Posted 14 April 2014 - 04:13 PM

Film is past, digital is present. One day digital will be compared to something else. 

 

I guess I missed the memo because I will be shooting a feature this summer on 16mm film.


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#7 Vadim Joy

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Posted 14 April 2014 - 04:19 PM

 

I guess I missed the memo because I will be shooting a feature this summer on 16mm film.

Go ahead, good luck with that. People still drive vintage cars.


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#8 Matthew W. Phillips

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Posted 14 April 2014 - 04:21 PM

Go ahead, good luck with that. People still drive vintage cars.

 

How is that sterile look, poor color rendition, and shabby dynamic range of your "present" medium working out for you?


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#9 Pavan Deep

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Posted 14 April 2014 - 04:22 PM

Not this again! Films is past, but it's present too and I am sure it'll be around in the future.

 

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#10 Matthew W. Phillips

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Posted 14 April 2014 - 04:26 PM

Not this again! Films is past, but it's present too and I am sure it'll be around in the future.

 

Pav

To quote a child..."but he started it!" :D


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#11 Vadim Joy

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Posted 14 April 2014 - 04:30 PM

 

How is that sterile look, poor color rendition, and shabby dynamic range of your "present" medium working out for you?

Lol, funny :) Never saw any dynamic range presets on my Red Scarlet or Blackmagic.


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#12 Matthew W. Phillips

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Posted 14 April 2014 - 04:32 PM

Lol, funny :) Never saw any dynamic range presets on my Red Scarlet or Blackmagic.

I guess your reading comprehension is up there with your ideas. I said "present" not "preset." I was referencing how you said digital is the "present" medium. 


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#13 Vadim Joy

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Posted 14 April 2014 - 04:36 PM

I guess your reading comprehension is up there with your ideas. I said "present" not "preset." I was referencing how you said digital is the "present" medium. 

My mistake, sorry. I agree film will be around for long time, but the point is that digital is getting closer and closer to replacing film. All those new movies are shot on digital for a reason. And the reason is that when you sit in that dark room eating your popcorn watching next epic masterpiece you won't notice any difference at all. 


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Posted 14 April 2014 - 04:41 PM

All those new movies are shot on digital for a reason.

 

3D

 

Freya


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#15 Vadim Joy

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Posted 14 April 2014 - 04:44 PM

 

3D

 

Freya

No, this is not it. First 3D film was The Power of Love, screened at 1922. 


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#16 Pavan Deep

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Posted 14 April 2014 - 04:48 PM

I hate to post on such topics the fact is some people will never see the validity in other opinions I have been hearing that video has been 'getting closer and closer to replacing film for decades now', it's interesting that film is still here and is still a valid choice.

 

Pav


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#17 Matthew W. Phillips

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Posted 14 April 2014 - 04:52 PM

I hate to post on such topics the fact is some people will never see the validity in other opinions I have been hearing that video has been 'getting closer and closer to replacing film for decades now', it's interesting that film is still here and is still a valid choice.

 

Pav

I try not to diss digital these days as long as those who choose digital are equally respectful of my choice. I actually am quite interested in Black Magic and what they are doing. I have even considered them since they have an awesome industry standard color grading suite to go along with their cameras. 

 

But it is hard to give any validity to people who have a reduser fanboy type of attitude toward film. If you cannot respect film and what it has meant to the industry and the history of motion pictures then you are not to be taken seriously.


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#18 Vadim Joy

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Posted 14 April 2014 - 04:56 PM

It always will be here. But less and less people will be using it. Digital cinematography is the future. Why don't people light the scene with open fire on the set? 


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#19 Matthew W. Phillips

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Posted 14 April 2014 - 05:00 PM

It always will be here. But less and less people will be using it. Digital cinematography is the future. Why don't people light the scene with open fire on the set? 

 

But your comparison is false. In most cases of things being deprecated, it is due to being obsolete by means of something else having superior quality and functionality. In this case, film is being deprecated because people are cheap, lazy, and impatient. I don't know how you can't make the connection in your mind.


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#20 Vadim Joy

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Posted 14 April 2014 - 05:05 PM

Well, some people just want to be part of future, to move on and to keep developing this industry. Some don't. 


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