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#1 Jon Paul Boast

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 02:21 PM

Hi all! I'm new to this forum.

I'm after some advise. I'm a london based lighting cameraman/DOP.

I'm shooting a commercial on a week. It's lovely slo mo shots of wine being poured In front of black. The director wants to shoot 800fps. We have a slo mo op with a phantom hd camera. I know we need to have tungsten sources over 5k. I know 5k though at around 800fos won't be enough. I've lit a fair few things in the past ten years but nothing slo mo. Any top tips? Much appreciated.
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#2 Stuart Allman

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 08:00 PM

Jon Paul,

 

You might want to consider the Hive plasma lights.  The ballast runs at 450MHz, so 800fps isn't an issue.  I heard about one rental customer doing some work at 3000fps recently while using the lights.  You'll probably want the "Killer" or even the 4-light Killer.  They were trying to light the project with just the Wasp and Bee and it wasn't enough, however you probably already know how to pre-calculate your foot-candle requirements.

 

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#3 timHealy

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 11:41 PM

If you have plenty of power tungsten lights would be just fine. How big will your shots be?

 

Did a contact lens commercial last year and had 6 Arri T-12s pushing light through light board.

 

A friend did a Disani water commercial a few years ago with 18-20k's.

 

Very narrow spot pars either 1k or 1.2k can be helpful too.

 

When using tungsten for high speed work it can be a good idea to use a dimmer board to easily cool lights between takes.


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#4 Phil Rhodes

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Posted 25 May 2014 - 07:05 AM

I'm not sure anywhere in the UK has the hive stuff.

 

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#5 Jon Paul Boast

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Posted 26 May 2014 - 03:44 AM

Thanks chaps. All useful stuff. I hope the studio they hire can cope with a few 20k !!!
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#6 Phil Rhodes

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Posted 26 May 2014 - 05:12 AM

Or, come to think of it, you could risk LED. It'd be a bit cooler, but you'd presumably need a lot of it.

 

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Posted 26 May 2014 - 05:47 AM

Or, come to think of it, you could risk LED. It'd be a bit cooler, but you'd presumably need a lot of it.

 

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Okay this is a bit dicey considering we are talking England, but it is quite bright at the moment, could the sun be a possibility?

Never had any flicker issues with it.

 

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#8 Jon Paul Boast

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Posted 26 May 2014 - 06:46 AM

Hi Freya! Ha ha. Yes this is the UK. Can't guarantee good weather and also this needs to be a black studio for the post effects. We need full lighting control! I can control the dimming and position of the sun unfortunately. Unless you know the gaffa know as god? ;-)
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