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#1 Roland

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Posted 01 June 2014 - 01:58 AM

Hello,

 

You now this application ?

 

https://vimeo.com/86192634#at=0

 

It's free software for apply Deshaking, Sharpening and color corrections.

Available in English.

 

Best regards

 

Roland

 

 

 


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#2 Roland

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Posted 01 June 2014 - 11:38 AM

Hello,

 

Some examples of films processed with Film9 :

 

https://vimeo.com/56560464
https://vimeo.com/94429328
https://vimeo.com/97004221

 

Best regards

(and sorry for my english)

 

Roland


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#3 Brian Drysdale

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Posted 02 June 2014 - 01:54 AM

You need to use your full real name, it's one of the forum rules. You have to contact Tim Tyler the site owner to make the change.


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#4 Anthony Schilling

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Posted 14 June 2014 - 11:08 AM

I've been tinkering with this program all week and finally got it to work right, sort of. So far I can only import mp4 files into Film9 but the processed results are amazing. I tested it with some raw color neg images that were correctly inverted. The color grade it does is really awesome, better than i can get by fiddling with highlights and mid tones for hours. I'll post a sample later if anyone is interested. 


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#5 Jose luis villar

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Posted 14 June 2014 - 12:02 PM

It seems a very artificial result, appears in a video camera recorded 15 years ago.


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#6 Anthony Schilling

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Posted 14 June 2014 - 05:38 PM

The degrain and sharpening are too heavy on those clips but you can lower them or disable. It does really well on an initial color balance for negative scans. That's what I hope to do with it, but i haven't been able to import avi files yet, I have to compress them to mp4 1st. 


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#7 Roland

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Posted 14 June 2014 - 07:00 PM

Here are some details that I hope will answer  your questions:
 
Film9 support .avi files

- Before the first opening of Film9:
1) it is recommended to completely uninstall Avisynth. Film9 contains all the files needed for the proper functioning of Avisynth.
2) Install the codecs pack K-Lite Codec Pack

- Film9 does not file any information in the registry, you can copy it to any directory without any problem, but it does not work with temporary directories.

- For compatibility with Avisynth, Film9 does not accept the use of directories containing accents or special characters.

- Film9 creates a first intermediate file in "Compliance" to
standardize the appearance of the video, this for the filters contained in "Final processing" have the maximum effect.
Do not forget to click "Launch Pre-selected clip" in "Final processing" to create the final clip.

- If you want to file a final 25 or 50 fs (29.97 or 59.94 for NTSC), you must enable “interpolation”

I hope these explanations in broken English you have been useful.

Very friendly.

 


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#8 Andries Molenaar

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Posted 15 June 2014 - 02:58 PM

Thank you for the explanation :)

 

The vimeo demos look very good. Many people can only wish to have such images of their personal history of 50 years past.


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#9 Anthony Schilling

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Posted 17 June 2014 - 12:18 AM

Here's a sample. I took an image sequence and rendered it to an mp4, sent it through film9 for color correction and mid level grain reduction. The film9 processed file was an avi which i took back into Sony Vegas, backed off a little blue in the mid's and removed the frame blending. Has some motion blur artifact but has potential if I can work the kinks out. The film is 1 roll or Kodak 50D scanned with the Retro8.

 


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#10 Roland

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Posted 17 June 2014 - 06:06 AM

Thank you for this test ...
Convert your movie to avi to mp4 is a lose definition ... it's a shame, because Film9 accept the avi format
I advise you to completely reinstall Avisynth and codecs.
Your film is certainly a scanned with syncronisation film.
Here are two settings that will reduce artifacts and sacades.

http://www.dropbox.c...i3xdg8w1t/1.png
http://www.dropbox.c...uowcuw0mr/2.png
(Don't activate interpolation)

Best regards

Roland

Edited by Roland, 17 June 2014 - 06:07 AM.

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#11 Joerg Polzfusz

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Posted 17 June 2014 - 06:27 AM

Here's a sample. I took an image sequence and rendered it to an mp4

 

The result of Film9 looks great! Could you please also upload the original mp4?


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#12 Anthony Schilling

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Posted 17 June 2014 - 11:27 AM

Yes i uninstalled avisynth and detelted the program last night. Reloaded the program and let it re-install the full package of avisynth... and still cant import an avi into film 9. I get an error with virtualdub and that's it.

 

Thanks for the tip Roland


Edited by Anthony Schilling, 17 June 2014 - 11:27 AM.

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#13 Roland

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Posted 17 June 2014 - 11:39 AM

Maybe I'll offer you a solution that you already know ...
But all codecs are not compatible with Avisynth, you try to install K-Lite Codec Pack?
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#14 David Cunningham

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Posted 17 June 2014 - 02:32 PM

I have to say... it makes the films look like old VHS tapes...  very ick...


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#15 Anthony Schilling

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Posted 17 June 2014 - 05:42 PM

Maybe I'll offer you a solution that you already know ...
But all codecs are not compatible with Avisynth, you try to install K-Lite Codec Pack?

I did, maybe i'll try reinstalling it


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#16 Roland

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 10:36 AM

Dear David,

I do not think anyone has the exclusive picture perfect ... especially not me!
There are only different choices.

Now it is common to make scans with little contrast and a lot of grain to show that this is an old movie.
But if you use an old Super8 projector, you have a very saturated picture, sharp and without grain (or just little).
The result will be far from it:

But more like this:


But to realize this, we must still have old projectors and not only work with scanners.
I respect everyone's choice, but i do not want to be trapped in what some believe to be the right choice!
It is also to respect the choice of each, that our small application allows you to change the settings as anyone can wish for.

friendly

Roland
(I hope the google translation is not too bad)
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#17 Anthony Schilling

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 11:28 AM

Avisynth error "Can't find a decompressor for YUYV" is what happens when I try to import an avi. I did not have the K-lite codec pack installed, but did install 10.5.5 and still had the problem. Something may be out of line in my registry? I was able to bring in an mpeg2 to process, left the grain in and the results were awesome. Gave me a sharp grain texture, excellent colors, turned off the interpolation. If i can straighten out the registry, this will be a crucial tool to have.


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#18 David Cunningham

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 11:42 AM

Dear David,

I do not think anyone has the exclusive picture perfect ... especially not me!
There are only different choices.

Now it is common to make scans with little contrast and a lot of grain to show that this is an old movie.
But if you use an old Super8 projector, you have a very saturated picture, sharp and without grain (or just little).
The result will be far from it:

But more like this:


But to realize this, we must still have old projectors and not only work with scanners.
I respect everyone's choice, but i do not want to be trapped in what some believe to be the right choice!
It is also to respect the choice of each, that our small application allows you to change the settings as anyone can wish for.

friendly

Roland
(I hope the google translation is not too bad)

 

I too am a fan of a projector and, when possible, do all my grading and post work attempting to match the projected image to my scanned image.  I have yet to get it to match.

 

 

This is as close as I have come.  The footage from 1:00 to 2:04 is entirely Fuji Velvia 50D and from 2:04 - 3:20 Kodak Ektachrome 100D.  This is almost exactly what the projected image looks like in grain, contrast and sharpness.  I have a much higher resolution version than the 720p posted on Vimeo.  But, it's still close.  All other footage is negative (Kodak Vision3 50D).  So, it's going to look completely different.  The grain is going to be light in color and exaggerated and stand out more.  Unfortunately, with Super 8, there is no way to make a print in the USA so I will never know what a correctly timed print would look like.

 

The footage you mention in your post is mostly negative 16mm.  The Super 8 is also negative.  So, it is going to look much more grainy than a good reversal film.

 

What I have seen coming out of Film9 thus far does not look anything like any projected Super 8 image I have ever seen.  But, that's just my opinion.

 

The next closest scan I have to looking like my projected image is here:

 

 

This is Kodak Vision3 50D in snow.  The contrast is a bit off, but from 1:15 to the end is actually just a bit "better" looking than the timed print I have of this same footage (when projected).  The shadow detail is a bit better.  The grain is less apparent in the corrected scan as well vs the projected print.

 

Dave


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#19 Roland

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 01:41 PM

Anthony,

 

There is a codec problem ...
Probably from a Canopus codec ... yet to be confirmed
I'll keep you posted ...


Edited by Roland, 18 June 2014 - 01:43 PM.

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#20 Roland

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Posted 22 June 2014 - 04:06 AM

Hello Anthony,

I received your .avi clip that does not want to open with Avisynth.
We exchanged several email about it.
This avi clip is very particular format (UYVY) which requires a special codec that I found, but unfortunately also a change in the Avisynth scripts.
This change will be made by Gilles and myself, in the next version of Film9.
In the immediate future, I have no other solutions that offer to convert your clips in a standard format.
We appreciate these remarks on problems because they allow us to we tackle our software.

Roland
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