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Is it possible to buy Unperforated/Bulk film from Kodak?


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#1 Omar Alboukharey

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 10:43 PM

As the title says, I cant seem to find any information on how to achieve this but yet there are services out there that perforates such medium.

 

One stock inparticular is the Vision3 500T.


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#2 Chris Millar

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 12:56 AM

Ring Kodak and ask them?
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#3 Adrian Sierkowski

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 01:02 AM

Well I'm certain you could buy a master roll from them.....


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Posted 09 July 2014 - 04:17 AM

... but you would then have enough stock for about 25,000 Super-8 cartridges or 600,000ft of 16mm.

I doubt anyone but Kodak could slit and perforate a master roll. They're a nautical mile long.


Edited by Mark Dunn, 09 July 2014 - 04:19 AM.

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#5 Richard Tuohy

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 05:34 AM

Many people have enquired with kodak about unperforated film. To my knowledge no one has ever succeeded. But the world keeps changing. You would need to expect that any positive answer came with a lot of zeroes in the price. A lot.
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#6 Mark Dunn

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 06:55 AM

A lot of zeroes on the weight too. Over half a ton.


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Posted 09 July 2014 - 09:18 AM

Mel Brooks was once asked: "What is the toughest thing about making a film?"

 

Brooks replied: "Putting in the little holes. The sprocket holes are the hardest thing to make. Everything else is easy, but all night you have to sit with that little puncher and make the holes on the side of the film. You could faint from that work. The rest is easy: the script is easy, the acting is easy, the directing is a breeze… but the sprockets will tear your heart out."

 


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#8 Omar Alboukharey

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 07:33 PM

Thanks for the replies guys!

 

I was hoping to obtain just 400ft of unperforated Vision3 500T.

 

Reperforating services do exist by a company called Wittner Cinetec in Germany. I have emailed/contacted them about this and they do provide it so long either the 16mm or 35mm film is unperforated.


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#9 Simon Wyss

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 11:00 PM

Chances are you might get non-perf stock from FilmoTec but they offer black and white exclusively. Just to tell

 

Ferrania could be interested.


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#10 Omar Alboukharey

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Posted 20 July 2014 - 06:21 PM

I have got in contact with the people you've mentioned, and I have been passed around a couple of times. No luck yet.

 

Is it just not possible to re-perforated an already perfed 35mm film??? Surely you can get Super8 film from that right?


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#11 David Cunningham

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Posted 20 July 2014 - 07:31 PM

You can get 3 strips of Super8 from a single strip of 35mm motion picture film. That's how Pro8mm and Spectra make theirs.
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#12 Omar Alboukharey

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Posted 20 July 2014 - 08:23 PM

How does Pro8mm and Spectra receive their film perhaps? Perfed or Non-perfed?

 

Either way, do you reckon it is possible to get it in bulk from them?


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Posted 20 July 2014 - 09:49 PM

They get 1000 ft 35mm camera negative on core. It is perfed. You can order this yourself direct from Kodak.
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#14 Omar Alboukharey

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Posted 30 October 2014 - 05:19 PM

They get 1000 ft 35mm camera negative on core. It is perfed. You can order this yourself direct from Kodak.

 

Hi David, sorry for the very late response, But I must know...

 

Do you know or think that Spectra provides a service to perforate 35mm film? And at a good price perhaps??


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#15 Chris Millar

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Posted 30 October 2014 - 06:16 PM

Ring Spectra and ask them?

 

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#16 Omar Alboukharey

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Posted 30 October 2014 - 06:29 PM

I'm from the UK, and I just shot them an email  :D

 

Perhaps, might you or anyone else here know anyone that does re-perforation services??? :)


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#17 David Cunningham

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Posted 30 October 2014 - 08:51 PM

Neither Pro8mm nor Spectra offer cut down and perf services anymore. I've asked them both. Even when they did, it was crazy expensive.
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#18 Omar Alboukharey

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Posted 30 October 2014 - 09:07 PM

Ohhhh man...that's terrible!

 

Isn't there anywhere else or anyone who could possibly do them??? :(


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#19 Richard Tuohy

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Posted 30 October 2014 - 10:05 PM

Pro 8 are the only people in the world at up to perforate perforated 35mm to super8. indeed I wonder if anyone else has ever done it commercially. I once had wittner do a test for me of perforating a 100 ft roll of perforated 35. Their perforator is for perfing unperforated 35. They were able to get 2 x super 8 from that. The other two had 35mm perforations. The thing is those perforations made it difficult for them to do.
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#20 Richard Tuohy

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Posted 30 October 2014 - 10:08 PM

Pro 8 are the only people in the world at up to perforate perforated 35mm to super8. indeed I wonder if anyone else has ever done it commercially. I once had wittner do a test for me of perforating a 100 ft roll of perforated 35. Their perforator is for perfing unperforated 35. They were able to get 2 x super 8 from that. The other two had 35mm perforations. The thing is those perforations made it difficult for them to do.
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