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#1 Al Lougher

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 01:25 PM

Hey all -

 

I'm shooting a short film this weekend and we are shooting two talking heads inside a moving classic 1960 hard top Impala on a smooth, closed road. We are not using a process trailer, instead we have a beefy suction car mount at our disposal. Because of rigging time, I'm thinking of just shooting OTS from the rear seat (as in the example below). I actually prefer this angle because I think there are more options for sound and lighting, however I'm not too sure about a bouncing around camera. Are these types of shots typically locked down with additional grip inside or just a well balanced shoulder rig?

 

Thanks!

 

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Impala interiors:

 

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Edited by Al Lougher, 31 July 2014 - 01:30 PM.

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#2 Satsuki Murashige

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 01:57 PM

If you want a steady frame, your best bet is some kind of grip rig. The cheap way would be to use a furniture pad to protect the interior, then use apple boxes and wedges to get the correct height and level for your camera platform. Ratchet together and to the passenger seat, then ratchet a high hat on top. If locking off, attach one or two baby spuds via threaded mounting points on your camera (cage, top handle) and secure to two more solid mounting points on the frame with grip heads and short arms.

If you can drill into the body of the car, then you could attach a bazooka mount to the backseat floor of the car and have a solid Mitchell base platform. But that sounds like it won't be possible in this case.
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#3 Al Lougher

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 02:31 PM

Thanks. I just have to be careful what I can do to the interior in terms of drilling holes and stuff.

 

This is the car mount that we have. Maybe we could mount two cups to the inside rear side windows and clamp the additional rods to something on the passenger or rear seat? Note we're shooting with the Canon C100 so it's a pretty small and lightweight camera.

 

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Edited by Al Lougher, 31 July 2014 - 02:32 PM.

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#4 Satsuki Murashige

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 02:35 PM

Sure that could work, although you should talk to your key grip about how safe it is attaching those suction cups to car windows. I suspect they would prefer to attach to the body panels but who knows? I'm not a grip ;)
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#5 Stuart Brereton

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 03:05 PM

For the angles you've described, i would just shoot handheld from the rear seat. Get your grips to tie off the camera to some hard point in the car to stop it from flying out of your hands if the driver has to stop suddenly.


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#6 James Martin

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Posted 01 August 2014 - 02:18 AM

Does it need to be perfectly steady? If you brace yourself well and the car isn't travelling fast or over rocky ground, you can get a fairly good image and I normally find perfectly static stuff in a car can feel unnatural.

 

Of course, it may suit your shot/scene in which case ignore me :)


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#7 Al Lougher

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Posted 01 August 2014 - 09:23 AM

Doesn't have to be perfectly steady no and yeah, will be driving slow on a closed tarmac road. I guess we'll test with shoulder rig first and see how that goes and use rig as back up.

 

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#8 Jon Rosenbloom

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Posted 13 August 2014 - 08:22 PM

Shoulder rig with a sound blanket and a 1/2 or 1/4 apple on your lap seems to work well for many of the shows I've done.

It's a real pain to rig a high hat in the back if you can't remove the seat. 


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