Jump to content




Photo

16mm Film Processing


  • Please log in to reply
9 replies to this topic

#1 Scott Pickering

Scott Pickering
  • Basic Members
  • PipPip
  • 91 posts
  • Other

Posted 22 February 2015 - 06:19 PM

I have picked a couple labs to process my 16mm film in 100 foot spools. I have decided on either Fotokem in California, or Cinelab in MA. I have some B&W reversal and I think Cinelab is the only option for that between the two. As for B&W neg and color neg, would you go for Cinelab or Fotokem? I see with 100 foot spools, Cinelab charges about $20 a roll of 100 feet for B&W. Not sure about Fotokem. Also will Fotokem work with Orwo B&W film, or strictly Kodak? Any suggestions?


Edited by Scott Pickering, 22 February 2015 - 06:21 PM.

  • 0




#2 Robert Houllahan

Robert Houllahan
  • Sustaining Members
  • 1511 posts
  • Industry Rep
  • Providence R.I.

Posted 22 February 2015 - 06:25 PM

We charge $14 per 100 for B&W-Neg and $17 per 100 for B&W-Reversal we only charge "Commercial" prices for Studio/Spots etc. All independent and student people we give student pricing.

 

FotoKem does not runt B&W Reversal


  • 1

#3 Scott Pickering

Scott Pickering
  • Basic Members
  • PipPip
  • 91 posts
  • Other

Posted 22 February 2015 - 06:45 PM

Interesting. I do not see those rates mentioned in the Student pdf. It still says 20 cents a foot for processing only. Does Cinelab now offer 5K scanning of 16mm or Super 16? That is what I intend on getting. If you do, what are your rates for that? And what file do you save to?


Edited by Scott Pickering, 22 February 2015 - 06:46 PM.

  • 0

#4 Josh Gladstone

Josh Gladstone
  • Basic Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 309 posts
  • Editor
  • Hollywood

Posted 22 February 2015 - 07:17 PM

Cinelab is great. Spectra offers all of those services as well.


  • 0

#5 Bill DiPietra

Bill DiPietra
  • Sustaining Members
  • 2265 posts
  • Cinematographer
  • New York City

Posted 23 February 2015 - 02:23 AM

I've not had the pleasure of working with Cinelab, but I've heard many positive reviews of their services in this forum.

With that said, FotoKem did the dailies for my most recent short film and I've been very pleased with the results & customer service. Price-wise, I'll put it to you this way: if you're processing 400' rolls of color neg, you will wind up with better quality for nearly the same price as a lab I used to use here in NYC. So if you have that amount or more of color neg it may be worth it. Anything less may wind up being a bit pricy due to the minimum footage charge (I forget exactly what it is.)

But I saw a significant difference in quality when I switched to them. I've only had them process Kodak stocks, but I'm sure they do Orwo as well. PM me if you'd like the contact info for the pertinent parties over there.
  • 0

#6 Robert Houllahan

Robert Houllahan
  • Sustaining Members
  • 1511 posts
  • Industry Rep
  • Providence R.I.

Posted 23 February 2015 - 12:25 PM

5K scanning for 35mm we currently offer up to 3.5K S16mm and 3K 16mm scans. Cinelab's fast pinless Xena will be getting a camera head update soon to a 4K+ Kodak-Trusense chip which is 12-bits and 30fps capable. This will allow for UHD res scanning of 35mm, 16mm, S16mm and Super-8mm.

 

We are picking up a third scanner this or next week which is 35mm at true 5K i.e. 5K R,G and B.

 

Yeah the $0.14 is for Process and Prep with Cinelab Print or Scan and $0.20 for Process and prep only.

 

There was once a lab in New York that developed B&W in a dirty dishwater bath, not hard to better.


  • 1

#7 Anthony Schilling

Anthony Schilling
  • Basic Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 992 posts
  • Camera Operator
  • Portland, OR

Posted 23 February 2015 - 01:31 PM

Cinelab is great. Spectra offers all of those services as well.

Spectra is a good lab, the quality and quality control on their processing is top notch. I use them for all of mine, sending out a batch tomorrow!


  • 0

#8 cole t parzenn

cole t parzenn
  • Basic Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 287 posts
  • Other

Posted 23 February 2015 - 04:12 PM

We are picking up a third scanner this or next week which is 35mm at true 5K i.e. 5K R,G and B.

 

What's your current 5K?


  • 0

#9 Perry Paolantonio

Perry Paolantonio
  • Basic Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 349 posts
  • Other
  • Boston, MA

Posted 23 February 2015 - 04:42 PM

We are doing 5k 16m and Super 16 on our ScanStation and we're 1-day shipping via UPS Ground (cheap) from Cinelab.


  • 0

#10 Robert Houllahan

Robert Houllahan
  • Sustaining Members
  • 1511 posts
  • Industry Rep
  • Providence R.I.

Posted 23 February 2015 - 05:35 PM

We have just acquired a Imagica Imager-XE which has a 5K Tri-Linear CCD at an actual 14-bit color depth, most scanners are 12-bit and some are even 10-bit.

 

We also offer a 4K 12-bit (Monochrome sequential color) Pin-Registered Xena scan which is 4K of each R,G,B and IR with a 4K x 3K Monochrome CCD.

 

Finally our fast Xena with machine vision Perf Stabilization at up to 3K and soon faster and Ultra-HD resolutions at 12-bit.

 

All of the machines which use machine vision use some of the resolution for the perf area, i.e. our Xena has a 3.4K 12-bit Kodak CCD which uses about 400 pixels for "looking" at the perfs, this area can be included in the scan but is not really the picture area of the film. Also these machines are color cameras so a 5K camera has 2.5K of Green and 1.25K of R and B.


  • 0


Zylight

CineLab

Glidecam

Rig Wheels Passport

The Slider

Broadcast Solutions Inc

Aerial Filmworks

Technodolly

Tai Audio

Visual Products

Willys Widgets

Pro 8mm

rebotnix Technologies

Ritter Battery

Paralinx LLC

Abel Cine

CineTape

Pro 8mm

Broadcast Solutions Inc

CineLab

CineTape

rebotnix Technologies

Glidecam

Paralinx LLC

The Slider

Visual Products

Ritter Battery

Willys Widgets

Aerial Filmworks

Abel Cine

Tai Audio

Technodolly

Rig Wheels Passport

Zylight