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Does a 14-bit ADC actual produce 14-bit dynamic range images?

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#1 Auberon Hall

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Posted 05 April 2015 - 11:46 AM

Good afternoon,

 

 

I currently studying (BSc) Film Production Technology and am writing a media technology report on sensors and cameras systems specifically looking at how full-frame sensors/camera systems perform better than cropped sensors in minimal light. 

 

 

The idea I was wondering people had some views on is whether “camera manufactures say their cameras produce 14-bits, however when you look at their own application notes, performance is shown to have a dynamic range of 1320:1” (Motion Video Productions, 2009) because in reality even an 11-bit camera should produce a dynamic range of 2048:1?

 

Has anyone experienced this with cameras they have worked with before and would a 14-bit ADC actually produce 14-bit images because the bits maybe subjected to lower parts of the image for instance shadows as well?

 

Many thanks

 

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Posted 05 April 2015 - 03:08 PM

Dynamic range is defined as the ratio between the smallest recordable 'signal' to the largest.

 

So even with a 14 bit ADC, one may have noise such that the smallest recordable 'signal' requires some number of 'counts', say 16 counts, that's 2^4,  and the max range, is 2^14 one has a  dynamic range of 2^14 / 2^4 = 2^(14 - 4) or 10 'doublings' or stops...


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Posted 05 April 2015 - 04:03 PM

Sometimes a camera will have a larger bit processor or recording format in order to store and move data around in a bigger bucket -- the Alexa I believe has dual 14-bit AD processors for a high and low gain signal that is combined into a single 16-bit signal but then recorded as 12-bit Log.  I think the Red Epic also uses a 16-bit AD processor, or maybe it's a 14-bit AD that get stored in a 16-bit container, I don't know.


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#4 Carl Looper

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Posted 10 April 2015 - 10:15 PM

An ADC will be specified in terms of how many bits are useful bits, meaning that any bits beyond the useful ones are more noise than signal.

 

But the way in which uncompressed digital data is transported is typically in terms of bytes rather than bits. A byte is 8 bits. So if an ADC is specified as 14 bits (of useful information) a byte can't encode those 14 bits. Two bytes (or 16 bits) must be used, meaning 2 bits of which will be either noise or set to zero.

 

But this is by no means a standard. All sorts of encoding schemes exist for uncompressed data streams. For example, 3 x 10 bits (30 bits) can be packed uncompressed across 4 bytes (32 bits).

 

Manufacturer's will tend to claim all sorts of things with respect to their ADCs. If they claim a 14bit ADC it either means they realise they can't get away with saying 16bits (who would believe them) but can get away with adding an extra bit or two where the sensor might have been more correctly classified as a 13 or 12 bit sensor.

 

However this is not necessarily fraudulent. It is difficult (or impossible) to know whether a bit is just encoding noise or a signal. Indeed it is arguable that there is no such thing as pure noise - that there is always a faint trace of a signal, no matter how many additional bits the ADC sports. However the data processing hardware might be ignoring any signal above a certain bit depth. The limit specified on the ADC might be with respect to the processing hardware rather then the sensor.

 

And data often undergoes down conversion in order to remove noise. In other words the noise is recorded and then filtered (on the fly), the result of which doesn't need to be anything more than 10 bits for subsequent transport. One captures more than one needs just to be totally sure one hasn't captured less than one needs. And of course, once compression is introduced, the whole concept of bits/pixel becomes a meaningless number.

 

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Posted 11 April 2015 - 04:33 PM

Thanks for the information, this has been helpful for my project's investigation.

 

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