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#41 Tyler Purcell

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Posted 02 November 2015 - 11:55 PM

Fly down to L.A. and see it at the Cinerama Dome. That theater is one of three in this country designed for that 70mm anamorphic format.
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Posted 03 November 2015 - 07:43 AM

I've been searching for a while and I have yet to see any list of theatres for Hateful 8.

I'm hoping they'll show it in Atlanta, or somewhere equally close tho I don't think there's a 70mm projector in Cincy.


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#43 Tyler Purcell

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Posted 25 November 2015 - 03:33 PM

First documentary on the production:


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#44 Bill DiPietra

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Posted 25 November 2015 - 04:02 PM

Cool! Thanks for posting, Tyler.  I'd always wondered how 65mm was edited back in the day and if there was a special flatbed used for it.  There's my answer.


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#45 Tyler Purcell

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Posted 25 November 2015 - 04:44 PM

Well, they did have all the same tools we use for 16 and 35 today. Most of them were destroyed however and that machine is the last one existing, which is really sad. People just throw things away, even if they're one of a kind.
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#46 Satsuki Murashige

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Posted 25 November 2015 - 06:55 PM

That was awesome. Thanks for sharing, Tyler!
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#47 Bill DiPietra

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Posted 25 November 2015 - 07:25 PM

Here's a list of 70mm-capable U.S. theaters, updated earlier this month.  At the top left corner, it links to a page from in70mm.com which lists the theaters that are "supposedly" releasing The Hateful Eight in 70mm.


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#48 Robin R Probyn

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Posted 25 November 2015 - 07:25 PM

Yes thanks for posting.. interesting ..


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#49 David Mullen ASC

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Posted 25 November 2015 - 07:42 PM

There's no Los Angeles theaters listed...


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#50 Tyler Purcell

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Posted 25 November 2015 - 08:15 PM

Arclight hasn't released it's December 25th schedule yet. I assume they will project Hateful Eight as they are the premiere 70mm theater in L.A.
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Posted 26 November 2015 - 12:41 AM

Really looking forward to the Hateful Eight. Haven't been to a 70mm premiere since Rollerball came to my town... Might have 2 screens nearby: Cinemark San Jose & AMC Mikado Santa Clara. Otherwise will fly to the closest 70mm screen!


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Posted 26 November 2015 - 09:38 AM

I grew up and lived in San Jose for nearly 40 years. Did Cinemark buy up the Century dome theaters, or are those new builds? Out of all those Century domes (which I think were first built with TODD-AO in mind), I think only the standalong Century 21, had the full curved screen, which was actually problematic for a lot of flat movies. I remember seeing BLACK SUNDAY there first run and only two slivers of the screen being in focus (mid-left and mid-right), with the center and corners both just headache-inducingly soft.

 

The two theaters that I recall as being superb in the area are long long gone: the Santa Clara Cinema 150, where I saw debut of CLOSE ENCOUNTERS and reissues of 2001, and Palo Alto Square, which always got the aspect ratio right and used really bright projectors so you could see what was actually filmed. I remember taste-testing, seeing the same TREK movie at a SJ Century and then at the Square, and it was literally like night & day.


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#53 David Mullen ASC

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Posted 26 November 2015 - 10:55 AM

The Ultra Panavision process (2.7 : 1) was originally designed as a way of shooting for release in multiple formats including 3-projector Cinerama (2.66 : 1). But back in the late 1950's, Cinerama screens were deeply curved and made up of a series of vertical ribbons that looked like a solid surface from the seats but prevented light from bouncing around the curved surface and washing out the image in brighter scenes.

 

But the ribbon screens were expensive to maintain, so in the mid 1960's they were all replaced by a solid curved screen made for the Dimension-150 process (the cameras for D-150 were basically a reboot of Todd-AO 65mm cameras with new lenses.)

 

So at the Cinerama Dome in Hollywood, you have this solid curved screen where the image gets washed out in day scenes.  Also, the mild angle of the projector means that a horizontal landscape line has a slight upwards curve like a smile.

 

Also, keep in mind that with original 3-projector Cinerama, each projector only had to hold focus on 1/3 of the 2.66 screen, so there was a lot of sharpness from edge to edge, compared to trying to project 35mm anamorphic across that screen.  It's not a problem though for regular spherical 70mm since it is slightly less wide at 2.20 : 1.


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Posted 26 November 2015 - 11:30 AM

Back to the list I posted of 70mm-capable theaters, it would appear that the Ziegfeld here in NYC no longer projects 70mm prints.  According to the Bow-Tie Cinemas website - the company that now operates it - it is all 4K digital.  Very sad.  The last film I saw there was The Master.


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#55 David Mullen ASC

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Posted 26 November 2015 - 12:00 PM

I saw "The Master" in 70mm in NYC at some East Village art house theater.


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#56 Tyler Purcell

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Posted 26 November 2015 - 12:15 PM

The Ziegfeld appears to still have 70mm as of last year.

http://www.in70mm.co...gfeld/index.htm
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#57 Bill DiPietra

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Posted 26 November 2015 - 12:19 PM

The Ziegfeld appears to still have 70mm as of last year.

http://www.in70mm.co...gfeld/index.htm

 

That page is a year old.  This is what makes me believe the Ziegfeld is no longer projecting 70mm, but I intend to call next week.  You can trust only so much on the internet.


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#58 Tyler Purcell

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Posted 26 November 2015 - 12:22 PM

Well, they wouldn't have thrown those projectors away. Next time you go just look up at the projection booth, I'm sure it's still there. Heck only AMC theaters out here in LA threw their 35mm projectors away, most of the other theaters still have them.

Here is some bad news about the Ziegfeld though:

"Yes no hateful eight at the Ziegfeld. I confirmed this with management. The only reason you can’t buy tickets past the 24th is Just something technical. They will fix it for ticket sales closer to the 22nd . Yes all theaters have to keep Star Wars for one month."
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#59 Tyler Purcell

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Posted 26 November 2015 - 12:24 PM

Ohh another rumor says the Paris theater still runs 70mm, but again, just a rumor.
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#60 Bill DiPietra

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Posted 26 November 2015 - 12:26 PM

"Yes no hateful eight at the Ziegfeld. I confirmed this with management. The only reason you can’t buy tickets past the 24th is Just something technical. They will fix it for ticket sales closer to the 22nd . Yes all theaters have to keep Star Wars for one month."

 

Yup...read that last night.  I'm not sure if the AMC Loews IMAX theater around 68th Street has the ability to project 70mm.  And the City Cinemas theaters supposedly project 70mm in 3 theaters - 1 holding 500 people with a large screen, but I've never been there (David - one of those theaters may be where you saw The Master.)  I sent them an e-mail to see if they still project 70mm.

 

This is why I loved L.A. when I was there.  As much New York wants to boast that it is filled with film snobs like myself, it is no match for L.A.  Simply put, I found that there are far more venues for cinephiles out there.


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