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#1 Dennis Hingsberg

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Posted 16 June 2015 - 06:43 AM

Does anyone have any good recommendations to mount a kino 4ft in a finished kitchen ceiling? It's quite wide, 40-50 ft wide probably?

 

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#2 Mark Kenfield

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Posted 16 June 2015 - 10:22 AM

Any photos of the ceiling you can share Dennis?


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Posted 16 June 2015 - 05:07 PM

Hi Mark, thanks for your reply. Here is a location photo. 

 

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Edited by Dennis Hingsberg, 16 June 2015 - 05:11 PM.

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#4 JD Hartman

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Posted 16 June 2015 - 08:13 PM

Would the Kino be in place of the pendant lights?  Remove them and start you rig attaching directly to the box "ears" with machine screws and nuts.  The track lighting also presents an opportunity using Cardellini clamps.  The more destructive method would be drywall screw into ceiling joists and patching later.


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Posted 16 June 2015 - 10:21 PM

Magnets at each corner of the kino if there is any metal supports in the roof.

Of take the squid out of the housing and tape the bulbs up. You could probably tape the reflctor up too. Or put silver paper under the bulbs. Then tape teasers if need be.
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Posted 16 June 2015 - 10:25 PM

Oh and the obvious answer is a polecat.
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#7 Dennis Hingsberg

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Posted 17 June 2015 - 06:09 AM

Thanks for the replies,  so the photo taken is camera A position with the talent standing around that brown table facing camera. So directly behind the talent, almost dead centre in the photo where you see left cupboard above the fridge, is where I would want to put a kino backlighting the subject.


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Posted 17 June 2015 - 06:23 AM

^ I tried to update my original post with more details but for some reason can't edit any of my posts on this forum. Maybe because I am new here. 

 

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Posted 17 June 2015 - 09:09 AM

A furniture clamp across the extractor for the stove top might work, that gap above the fridge housing could also be used to boom out a support arm to hold the kino.

 

Perhaps a stand near the dishwasher supporting one end of some speed rail (or even just a plank of wood), and the other end resting on top of that gap above the fridge? From that you could suspend a light or two fairly easily.


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Posted 17 June 2015 - 10:04 AM

Thanks Mark, those are some good options indeed. to use that gap between fridge housing and ceiling, to hold a boom, what is a good device to use so it doesn't slide out and crash down?


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Posted 17 June 2015 - 08:17 PM

Well for a single kino, I'm sure you'd be fine having it braced by a stand on the opposite side of the room, and some shotbags either side of the end that rests on top of the fridge unit. I'd probably also wrap the end of the speedrail/plank that's resting on top of the fridge in cloth so that it's snug between the ceiling and the unit.


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Posted 18 June 2015 - 11:39 AM

Does anyone have any good recommendations to mount a kino 4ft in a finished kitchen ceiling? It's quite wide, 40-50 ft wide probably?

 

thanks,

 

 

Oh and the obvious answer is a polecat.

 

The above data indicates the the ceiling quite wide.  A wall spreader or polecat to span that distance??

 

A furniture clamp across the extractor for the stove top might work, that gap above the fridge housing could also be used to boom out a support arm to hold the kino.

 

Perhaps a stand near the dishwasher supporting one end of some speed rail (or even just a plank of wood), and the other end resting on top of that gap above the fridge? From that you could suspend a light or two fairly easily.

 

Sheetmetal ductwork has little or no structural strength.   Stands out of frame supporting  a piece of  speedrail or better a section of low profile truss might be the answer.   


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#13 Satsuki Murashige

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Posted 18 June 2015 - 01:12 PM

Can the door of the cabinet above the fridge be removed? Maybe you can slide a pancake with a pidgeon plate and short gobo arm in there and bag the crap out of it. That might hold a lighter unit like a Skinny Man, a Single tube, or a Litemat. Either that or just get a Matthews boom stand: http://www.msegrip.c...s-mini-max.html.
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