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#1 Jose luis villar

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Posted 18 July 2015 - 09:06 AM

 
 
Look at this, color is V3 500t with a Canon 1014xls and SW, 4008 Beaulieu Trix/ Schneider lens... inside Trix's my fault for not focus well, I was nervous, but looking at the outdoors shots.
 

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Posted 18 July 2015 - 09:27 AM

Not be if my Canon have a collimating lens problem or it's so.


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#3 David Cunningham

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Posted 18 July 2015 - 09:55 AM

The 1014 XL-S is notoriously soft when opened up. Were you wide open or nearly wide open?

Even the 814 (both auto zoom and xl-s) are sharper.

I'm sure you had your Schneider stopped down quite a bit outdoors in direct sunlight with 200 Asa reversal. So that will make it look sharper than the nearly wide open 1014 indoors.
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#4 Jose luis villar

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Posted 18 July 2015 - 10:08 AM

I have several shots with 1014xls  closed 5.6-8, and are a little sharper but nothing compares to Beaulieu sharp.

I think my Canon has a problem.


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Posted 18 July 2015 - 12:51 PM

Gorgeous. 


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#6 Anthony Schilling

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Posted 19 July 2015 - 10:31 AM

Who's doing your color work again? It looks soooo good!


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Posted 19 July 2015 - 05:42 PM

He does his own color work. He has mastered the art of the flat scan with premiere pro rgb curves.

Closed down to 8 the 1014 is ok. Once you get inside of 5.6 or get wide open its crazy soft.

Did you have your pressure plate in the cart used in the 1014? If so, your camera may once have been collimated for film expected to be flat against the cart pressure pad rather then flush against the gate. This would exaggerate this problem.

If you didn't have your pressure plate in. Use it next time. That may fix it.
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#8 Jose luis villar

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Posted 20 July 2015 - 01:31 PM

Hi Anthony, David is right, Ochoypico give me a flat telecine and I do the color correction using curves.

I don't use the pressure plate with the Canon, did a test and it gave me problems of drag, only used with the Beaulieu.


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Posted 20 July 2015 - 01:57 PM

Flat

 

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Applying RGB curves:

 

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#10 David Cunningham

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Posted 20 July 2015 - 03:26 PM

Hi Anthony, David is right, Ochoypico give me a flat telecine and I do the color correction using curves.
I don't use the pressure plate with the Canon, did a test and it gave me problems of drag, only used with the Beaulieu.


Ahh. That's too bad. That could be a take up torque issue on the camera. As you know, that lack of pressure plate means the film plane can move quite a bit and the effects of this will be more significant at longer focal lengths and wider appetites. Based in your footage I don't think there is anything "wrong" with your 1014. It might be tweak able to make it better but I bet if you are stopped down to 8 or more and keep it as wide as possible you won't get that softness.
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#11 Rudolf Goertz

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Posted 31 July 2015 - 05:36 PM

Looks wonderful and very inspiring. Ochoypico always does great telecine - I like them a lot! Thank you Luis for sharing your color grading "secrets" :)


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