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#1 Chris Parente

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Posted 18 July 2015 - 09:19 PM

          Hey everyone,

 

     So for this low budget commercial I'm shooting, I'd really love to have a stronger light at a distance to get a "shafts of light through window" gag with haze.  It's just not in our budget so I'm trying to find the best way to get a large parallel beam into a small space (the room is only 15'x19') and I feel like the M18 could be a way to do this.  I'd also consider using a Joker Leko setup but I'm just afraid it won't produce as large or powerful of a beam as the M18. 

 

      Arri describes the M18 as having the best aspects of a par and fresnel - personally I love this light and I've been able to produce some venetian blind gags in small spaces with it before.  I know an ordinary par wouldn't work at such a close distance.  My question is, do you think the beam of the M18 is parallel enough to make a gag like this? 

 

 

Thank you,

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#2 David Mullen ASC

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Posted 18 July 2015 - 09:41 PM

In a short distance throw I don't think the M18 is any better than another fresnel for parallel rays. I'd go for a Joker 800 Source-4 Leko if I want that Xenon beam look. But a Leko won't have the spread unless you cluster a couple of them for a series of parallel beams.
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#3 Chris Parente

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Posted 18 July 2015 - 10:25 PM

In a short distance throw I don't think the M18 is any better than another fresnel for parallel rays. I'd go for a Joker 800 Source-4 Leko if I want that Xenon beam look. But a Leko won't have the spread unless you cluster a couple of them for a series of parallel beams.

 

 

Thanks for the quick & informative response David, I was actually looking at your work from this thread about light shafts from a while back for some inspiration: http://www.cinematography.com/index.php?showtopic=34654 

 

   You said the M18 wouldn't be any better than another fresnel for the job... could I take it then that it's also not necessarily any worse than another fresnel?  Or is that wishful thinking...


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#4 Satsuki Murashige

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Posted 18 July 2015 - 10:35 PM

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Here's a "shaft of light" setup done with an M18 about 10' away from the window. A Joleko 800 would have a tighter beam with less punch so you could walk it in much closer to get more out of it. But in the end I think you want a unit with more output unless you can use a camera system with high ISO to compensate. Another idea is to put a 4x4 mirror where the M18 would go and pound the M18 into it to increase the distance for more parallel rays.


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