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#1 Giray Izcan

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Posted 25 July 2015 - 03:41 AM

I just watched the movie again after a long time... Man, what a piece of art and a powerful story. I miss seeing movies that powerful I guess...


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#2 Bill DiPietra

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Posted 25 July 2015 - 10:17 AM

Very effective lighting in that film.  Simple and to the point.  For some reason, I always loved the heavily diffused look it had.


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#3 Giray Izcan

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Posted 25 July 2015 - 12:24 PM

Yea, to me the movie looks like they underexposed it and printed it up.
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#4 Adam Frisch FSF

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Posted 02 August 2015 - 01:25 AM

Kimball is a very underrated cinematographer. He did excellent work with Tony Scott as well. Check out Revenge.


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#5 Gregg MacPherson

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Posted 02 August 2015 - 01:45 AM

I saw Jacb's Ladder when it first came to New Zealand.  It was a real shock to me.  Quite un-nerving.  The sense of an alternate level of experience...seemed very real.  When it came clear that these experiences were provoked by the chemical fiddling of some evil (military?) folk I was less in awe,  but,  I still felt they had reached out further than most everybody else to explore....

 

I still remember the blured heads oscillating back and forth,  as though they had simply undercranked the camera.  Though now,  thinking on it,  one needs a more careful controll of shutter angle as well.  Do any of you chaps here have a feeling what fps and shutter angle they used?  Or am I the only one who was scared s---less by that?


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#6 Bill DiPietra

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Posted 02 August 2015 - 09:24 AM

I still remember the blured heads oscillating back and forth,  as though they had simply undercranked the camera.  Though now,  thinking on it,  one needs a more careful controll of shutter angle as well.  Do any of you chaps here have a feeling what fps and shutter angle they used?  Or am I the only one who was scared s---less by that?

 

Are you talking about the head against the car window as it passes Jacob?  If so, off the top of my head, that looked to be no more than about 72fps with a 180 degree shutter, but I could be wrong.


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#7 Gregg MacPherson

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Posted 02 August 2015 - 02:06 PM

It was a while ago so hopefully I haven't created some alternate fancifull thing in my head (though that does sound fun).

 

The camera was fixed,  I think.  The figure was stationary,  apart from their head,  which looked like it was leaning left to right at high speed,  mostly just a blur. 


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#8 Bill DiPietra

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Posted 02 August 2015 - 02:54 PM

It was a while ago so hopefully I haven't created some alternate fancifull thing in my head (though that does sound fun).

 

The camera was fixed,  I think.  The figure was stationary,  apart from their head,  which looked like it was leaning left to right at high speed,  mostly just a blur. 

 

Now that you mention it, I think there was another shot like that where the head was moving at something that looked liked 1fps in one of Jacob's hallucinations.  But I'd have to watch it again.


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#9 Giray Izcan

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Posted 02 August 2015 - 04:41 PM

They ran the cameras at 4fps I am pretty certain.
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#10 Gregg MacPherson

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Posted 03 August 2015 - 01:18 AM

They ran the cameras at 4fps I am pretty certain.

 

For the blury vibrating head shots?  Did you read that somewhere?


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#11 David Mullen ASC

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Posted 03 August 2015 - 05:23 PM

It certainly looks like under-cranking was involved -- with a film camera, there is no way to get extra-long shutter speeds for more blur without dropping the frame rate.


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#12 Giray Izcan

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Posted 03 August 2015 - 07:18 PM

The director mentions it in the behind the scenes of the movie that they shot those at 4fps.


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#13 Gregg MacPherson

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Posted 04 August 2015 - 12:58 AM

Is there some documentative stuff on the some of the DVD issues?  Or is it Online?  Giray,  a pointer?


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#14 Giray Izcan

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Posted 04 August 2015 - 01:16 AM

I watched it on my Blu-ray copy. I would assume they would have it on a DVD copy also.
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#15 Gregg MacPherson

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Posted 04 August 2015 - 06:55 PM

Thanks Giray.


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#16 Giray Izcan

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Posted 04 August 2015 - 09:10 PM

My pleasure Gregg. Well I'm off preparing for a pretty small budget feature we are shooting starting tomorrow. I just picked up the film from Kodak. Let's see how it goes...
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#17 Bill DiPietra

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Posted 04 August 2015 - 09:39 PM

My pleasure Gregg. Well I'm off preparing for a pretty small budget feature we are shooting starting tomorrow. I just picked up the film from Kodak. Let's see how it goes...

 

Congrats and good luck!


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#18 Giray Izcan

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Posted 04 August 2015 - 10:02 PM

Thanks Bill. I appreciate it.


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#19 Gregg MacPherson

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Posted 05 August 2015 - 03:23 AM

 I gave you a second up vote for shooting a small feature on film.


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#20 Giray Izcan

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Posted 05 August 2015 - 10:04 AM

Thank you Gregg. We're shooting on s16 and some 35. It will be interesting.
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