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#1 Simon Chin

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Posted 27 September 2015 - 06:05 AM

Hi,

Just to check if anyone has some tips. I will be shooting with an Epic or Alexa from a small boat ( bigger than a dinghy ) and I will 

be shooting another sailing yacht on lake like conditions, not open ocean with swells. 

There is no budget for any kind of gyro heads. Its going to be on sticks and probably some wide and tele shots.

What would you suggest to ensure there isn't too much movement in the footage? Suggestions for shutter angles? Tracking the other boat? Stationary?etc etc

Any help would be most appreciated. Thanks

Simon


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#2 Brian Drysdale

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Posted 27 September 2015 - 06:17 AM

Handheld is the way to go on small boats. Use your legs to keep thiings level using a well balanced camera, with a normal tripod the horizon bounces around.  It's how the boat shots in "Jaws" were filmed.


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#3 Simon Chin

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Posted 27 September 2015 - 06:20 AM

Thanks Brian.

Would it then be safe to say.. adding a Movi/Ronin into that handheld setup would help even more?


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#4 Phil Rhodes

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Posted 27 September 2015 - 06:55 AM

I've seen Steadicam shots done on boats where the isolation of the camera actually made the ride look rougher than it really was, with the boat dancing around in frame. I suspect a gimbal might offer the same issue. Depends what you're going for.

 

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#5 Brian Drysdale

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Posted 27 September 2015 - 07:05 AM

A Steadicam "locks" onto the horizon, bascaly the boat is moving around the Steadicam. OK for filming other boats, but you may find doesn't work so well for shots on the boat itself.


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#6 Simon Chin

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Posted 27 September 2015 - 10:20 AM

Thanks guys.


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#7 Satsuki Murashige

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Posted 27 September 2015 - 03:49 PM

Make sure you bring apple boxes and a grip to spot you when you go handheld on the boat. I find getting lower helps a lot to keep things stable if you get some swells from the other boat. If you're in a motor boat it can get loud so it will help if your boat captain is on walkie so you can communicate speed and direction. Steadicam can work for big sweeping boat to boat shots. I think the movement of the boat may be too violent for Movi/Ronin motors, I suspect they will just freak out but worth testing hard mounted I suppose.
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#8 JD Hartman

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Posted 27 September 2015 - 04:25 PM

Don't forget the rubber mats for stable footing or a Yoga mat or two.


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Posted 27 September 2015 - 06:53 PM

Great tips.. thanks 

Will certainly test out the gimbal if I can because for the most part, I shall be tracking another boat.

Cheers


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#10 Albion Hockney

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Posted 02 October 2015 - 04:39 PM

I think the Ronin would do pretty good on a boat.... I'd do it with the flowcine easy rig setup ...it will for sure be better then with handheld.


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