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#1 Sanji Robinson

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Posted 08 October 2015 - 03:20 PM

Hi,

 

Anyone knows where to rent an 8perf vista vision camera in the west coast?

 

We tried Clairmont Camera without luck...

 

Thank you.


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#2 Tyler Purcell

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Posted 08 October 2015 - 03:52 PM

Try panavision, they have lots of old-school toys sitting out back.
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#3 Ben Brahem Ziryab

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Posted 08 October 2015 - 04:18 PM

Tyler, I remember contacting Panavision about VV once. They actually don't carry them.


Edited by Ben Brahem Ziryab, 08 October 2015 - 04:20 PM.

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#4 Sanji Robinson

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Posted 08 October 2015 - 04:21 PM

Who else has them then?


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#5 Tyler Purcell

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Posted 08 October 2015 - 04:54 PM

Tyler, I remember contacting Panavision about VV once. They actually don't carry them.


Really? That's too bad. I bet they're sitting around in boxes somewhere.
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#6 Nicholas Kovats

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Posted 08 October 2015 - 04:55 PM

Geo camera in LA may still be renting their Beaumont VistaVision camera with Panivision mount, ie

http://www.geofilmgr...oducts/cameras/
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#7 Nicholas Kovats

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Posted 08 October 2015 - 05:17 PM

Panavision.
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#8 David Mullen ASC

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Posted 08 October 2015 - 05:41 PM

I remember talking to GeoFilm about four years ago about renting their VistaVision cameras.


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#9 David Cunningham

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Posted 08 October 2015 - 07:05 PM

Oh cool! I didn't think anyone still had them. Let me know how much it costs! Very curious.
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#10 Will Montgomery

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Posted 09 October 2015 - 12:52 PM

For Panavision to rent them to you, they'd have to get them rent-worthy and probably wouldn't make financial sense unless it's larger production.


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#11 Rudy Velez Jr

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Posted 10 October 2015 - 09:21 PM

There is a vistavison camera on eBay right now its $3500 


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#12 Mark Dunn

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Posted 11 October 2015 - 05:18 AM

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item4165a43415

If you mean this one, it's just the movement from an Oxberry.

You'd need a few more bits to make up anything resembling a camera.


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#13 Tyler Purcell

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Posted 11 October 2015 - 12:15 PM

Yea, I saw that and it's not really an option for production.
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#14 Mark Dunn

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Posted 11 October 2015 - 01:57 PM

I can't 'read' a mechanism by looking at it as no doubt many of you can, but I'd always assumed an animation movement is meant to latch at each frame so it wouldn't run continuously however hard you tried.


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#15 Kenny N Suleimanagich

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Posted 11 October 2015 - 05:39 PM

I believe it's this one

http://www.ebay.com/...tm/252115365307
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#16 David Mullen ASC

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Posted 11 October 2015 - 07:11 PM

It's interesting that it was used on "Tron" -- I was just about to re-read that old Cinefex issue on it.  The final post must have been complicated on that film since they did a lot of their efx in VistaVision but the live-action non-Tron scenes were shot in 65mm.


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#17 Rudy Velez Jr

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Posted 11 October 2015 - 07:28 PM

yeah i meant the listing Kenny linked to.

 

it looks really nice


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#18 dan kessler

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 07:12 PM

Like Tyler said, this would not be a good choice for live action.  Camera was built for a film recorder, as described below.

 

 

35mm Stein Mitchell VistaVision camera, serial number 10. 

 
This VistaVision camera shoots 8 perf frame 35mm film, as opposed to the standard 4 perf 35mm film and provides a large format original for feature filming. It is called a Stein Mitchell because it was built by a Mr. Stein and utilizes a Mitchell movement, except that the stroke is 8 perfs rather than four. It certainly runs 24 frames per second, but because the frames are twice as big that means that film is moving through the camera at 180 feet per minute, rather than 90 feet a minute.
 
The camera was owned by Digital Effects Inc.; the company purchased the camera in 1981 and used it as a single frame transport to film on the Dicomed, a CRT color film recorder.  All of the sections Digital Effects produced for the original TRON were made using this camera.
 
Digital Effects purchased the camera from Murray Learner, who used it for shooting some of his features. I do not know how he came to own the camera. Likely it was made in the 1950s, when the VistaVision format was introduced. 
 

It does not come with any lenses or live action motor, it does come with a single frame stepping motor. We do have Mitchell magazines which we could sell in addition to the camera. Most certainly the camera runs at full speed flawlessly.

MORE INFORMATION: In response to questions, we wish to report that this movement has two (not three) registration pins with one claw with (obviously) a very long stroke. The shutter appears to be a single blade of approximately 180 degrees. And yes, the camera is a rackover. Weight with the case is 72 pounds.

Mark in Salt Lake City (ebay ksa50) advises that he owns an earlier one of these camera and that he has drawings he acquired from ILM to convert the camera to reflex operation and we will be happy to pass along his contact information to any purchaser of this camera (although his plans are not part of this offering).

He also ads a bit more history about this instrument "There are less than ten of these cameras still in existence. Originally it was a camera built for two color cinematography known as Fox Nature Color. It had a largish lens that was actually a dual lens. Kodacolor filters snapped in the front half of the lens. Believe it or not the Stein Machine Company is still there in Rochester and the great Grandson has one of these cameras in original condition."


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#19 Rudy Velez Jr

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Posted 19 October 2015 - 04:39 PM

There is another one for 25 thousand online 

Stone Cine I believe is selling it

looks nice if thats your thing


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