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#1 David Edward Keen

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Posted 19 October 2015 - 07:46 PM

I'm shooting a music video. The shot is a a low angle slow tracking shot in a pie-wedge sort of shape around Satan sitting on his motorcycle as he puts out the cigarette on a horn.

 

I wanted to have a curtain, set behind Satan, I think of some translucent material, in the bokeh, filling the frame, with a orange or red source shining through the curtain. Imagining moving the curtain to create an effect of an impression of a hellish background.

 

Any ideas ?

 

I'm thinking of placing the lights on the ground illuminating the curtain that way...any thoughts? Shot lasts about 4 seconds.


Edited by David Edward Keen, 19 October 2015 - 07:48 PM.

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#2 Freya Black

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Posted 20 October 2015 - 06:02 AM

You are thinking of something like back projection? You could try video projection of actual fire although I think I'd prefer a more classic look but it depends on what you are going for. I'm thinking you might want to use moving reflectors of some kind to make the light move.

 

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#3 JD Hartman

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Posted 20 October 2015 - 08:36 AM

Maybe http://www.gamonline...fireeffects.php


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#4 David Edward Keen

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Posted 20 October 2015 - 02:21 PM

Thanks guys...Honestly I think doing it in post is better. I don't think the light play will work the way I'm imagining..using a backdrop and fooling around with lights. We have to be outside. If I can put subtle fires in the distance in post, that will be fine.
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#5 Satsuki Murashige

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Posted 21 October 2015 - 12:52 PM

If you're going to do it on green screen, then maybe put the money instead into something like a Magic Gadgets flicker box? In my experience it does a good job of creating a firelight flicker gag. Could help sell the fiery background plate if you use it as a backlight on the foreground character.

You could also get a flamebar and place it just below the frame line for a real fire element. That could potentially complicate your composite, but I find using as many practical elements as possible in a VFX shot usually helps to sell the effect.
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#6 David Edward Keen

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Posted 21 October 2015 - 07:32 PM

honestly i think i'll forget about effects and try to say it with camera angle, lighting, movement etc. it's too easy for it to become cheesy. although some large amount of cheese could be justified, as the tune is about Satan coming over and stealing this guy's weed! 


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#7 JD Hartman

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Posted 21 October 2015 - 08:09 PM

The twin spin/two gobo method is a tried and true theater fire gag, front or rear projection.


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#8 David Edward Keen

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Posted 21 October 2015 - 08:42 PM

how does that work, or is there a good link to describe that?


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