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#1 Milovan Kristo

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Posted 30 December 2015 - 03:22 PM

How many professional film labs are left?


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#2 Milovan Kristo

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Posted 30 December 2015 - 03:31 PM

TF CineNova GmbH  

 

www.taunusfilm.net  

 

The TF CineNova GmbH unites a classical film processing laboratory with a modern digital lab at the historical film production site ‘Unter den Eichen 5’ in Wiesbaden, Germany. With a motivated and experienced team consisting of perennial and new staff we provide a broad range of skills in film treatment with accustomed expertise and quality.


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#3 Bill DiPietra

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Posted 30 December 2015 - 03:34 PM

In the U.S. you still have FotoKem (in California,) Colorlab (in Maryland) & Cinelab (in Massachusetts) still making film prints.  Not sure about the others...


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#4 Milovan Kristo

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Posted 30 December 2015 - 03:57 PM

Thanks. It is assessable. In Europe is similar situation. 

 

TF CineNova GmbH (TaunusFilm) will be the last professional film lab in Germany (2016).


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#5 Kenny N Suleimanagich

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Posted 30 December 2015 - 03:58 PM

Also Video & Film Solutions in Maryland, Cinefilm in Atlanta, Continental Film Lab in Miami, Yale and Spectra in Los Angeles. The Alpha Grip mobile lab is in NYC at the moment. 

 

Canada has Niagara in Toronto and Vision Globale in Montreal. 

 

UK has Cinelab and iDailies. 


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#6 Milovan Kristo

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Posted 30 December 2015 - 04:09 PM

Thanks. It sounds good. ARRI in Munich will close the analog department... at the end of this year. Sad.

 

http://www.welt.de/p...entwickler.html


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#7 David Mullen ASC

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Posted 30 December 2015 - 04:19 PM

I was at FotoKem today and mentioned they must be the only lab on the West Coast but they said there is also a lab in Mexico City that the studios use for international release printing.


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#8 Milovan Kristo

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Posted 30 December 2015 - 04:31 PM

Thanks.


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#9 Jay Young

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Posted 30 December 2015 - 06:04 PM

Cinefilm in Atlanta was acquired by Crawford Media: http://crawford.com/...igital-dailies/


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#10 Dirk DeJonghe

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Posted 31 December 2015 - 05:28 AM

We are still here and in full operation, digital and analog.

Color and B&W, 16 and 35mm, traditional film grading or Baselight digital.

Thanks to Fedex and the internet, distances are no longer a factor.


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#11 Milovan Kristo

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Posted 31 December 2015 - 11:24 AM

Dirk, I agree with you. Thanks to FedEx and internet.


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Posted 31 December 2015 - 11:29 AM

There is the former Stockholm Post Production (STOPP) lab in Sweden, now working under MediaMonks brand
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Posted 04 January 2016 - 11:31 AM

I have the Kodak Motion picture app on my phone, It has a function that finds the closest lab anywhere in the world.


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Posted 04 January 2016 - 11:36 AM

I have the Kodak Motion picture app on my phone, It has a function that finds the closest lab anywhere in the world.

Not the most demanding task  now they can presumably all be listed on one sheet of A4.

Assuming you know where you are without looking at a phone of course.


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Posted 04 January 2016 - 04:47 PM

I am often left wondering what the word "Professional" is intended to mean when it is used in a thread such as this one. So that having been said, I feel that it would be quite appropriate in these times when film labs are getting more and more difficult to find, especially those which offer a print service, to mention a new processing lab which opened up in London in 2015.

 

"Film in Process" is a small artist run business providing a 16mm B&W processing and printing service. It has been set up by Bea Haut and Karel Doing, and the project is located at the University of East London, within the Fine Art Department’s 16mm facility. "Film in Process" aims to keep black and white 16mm film as an affordable medium for artists and students in London and the UK.

 

Bea and Karel are working closely together with Close-Up, and one can drop of and pick up films in their café and library.

One can Subscribe to their mailing list by sending an email to filminprocess@gmail.com. "Film in Process have a web page at www.filminprocess.com which contains more information for those interested.

 

My understanding is that Bea and Karel were associated with the processing service offered by "no.w.here" in East London, which discontinued the service they offered early in 2015.

 

I am sure they would welcome any support they can get.


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#16 Gregg MacPherson

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Posted 04 January 2016 - 05:29 PM

I think that artists, experimentals, or any new talented person sticking their toe in the water (let's call them the A group) will benefit from an indie/co-op/rootsy artist run lab. So I like the Filminprocess idea, but the prices are too high. 37c/ft US for 100' and 33c/ft US for 400'. Sounds like someone with a longer project can negotiate.

Sofar the old hippies in Melbourne (hey Carl) look like the best model for an artist co-op. Are they the only oasis? I can't believe it.

I talked to a chap here in Auckland NZ who is setting up some processors (color and B&W I think). Not an artist's co-op, and to survive, the prices move up. NZ always had the lab business modality with highish rate cards but with negotiation for volume etc. This is off putting to the A group, who commonly don't feel they have any leverage at all.

How wrong they are on that.
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Posted 04 January 2016 - 05:37 PM

I am often left wondering what the word "Professional" is intended to mean when it is used in a thread such as this one

I think it means very short or moderate processing times, good communication, excellent quality, possibility to negotiate price and delivery options and custom processing, etc. 

 

for example Andecfilm has usually quite long processing times by my experience, at least when sent from Finland. may be 1-2 weeks for developing plus shipping time and sometimes may be up to 2 MONTHS for developing+scanning which is incredibly long time. They seem to use leftover time from other companies for scanning services which adds considerably to the processing times. The quality is good overall but from time standpoint it is more suitable for amateur and semi pro customers.

 

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As a reference, last time I processed 16 and 35mm film in STOPP they developed them in ONE DAY and with shipping the films from Finland to Sweden and back to me it took 4 days total  :lol:  


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Posted 04 January 2016 - 05:45 PM

one thing I've never understood btw is why the heck it is so difficult to reach Lab people with email, almost all labs seem to skip most email questions about their services. this is not a single lab but almost ALL the labs I have ever tried to contact with even with different email accounts so it should not even be a spam filter issue and if you call them they have always read your emails even though not answered to them  :blink:


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Posted 04 January 2016 - 05:58 PM

one thing I've never understood btw is why the heck it is so difficult to reach Lab people with email, almost all labs seem to skip most email questions about their services. this is not a single lab but almost ALL the labs I have ever tried to contact with even with different email accounts so it should not even be a spam filter issue and if you call them they have always read your emails even though not answered to them  :blink:

 

FotoKem & Colorlab (NYC) have always been good with that, but I have a feeling most labs get so flooded with e-mails on a daily basis that only the priorities get responses.


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Posted 05 January 2016 - 03:43 AM

I have a feeling most labs get so flooded with e-mails on a daily basis that only the priorities get responses.

 

How true.

 

When running my lab I had to undergo some kind of phone terror. One guy kept calling me at least once a week, bombarding me with questions that you can’t answer with Yes or No. I didn’t have an E-Mail address then (1999 through 2008), that saved me a lot of time and energy. There were more people calling.

 

I do understand that a lot of questions arise with a person that is discovering film and cinema. One element of the paradigm change is that less books are read and, of course, less books about the technical aspects of film making are readily available.

 

Eastman-Kodak Co. once had the H-1 publication, Kodak Motion Picture Film, CAT 155 2280. Don’t know whether still available

 

In a way it’s an honor for lab people to sustain the photochemical motion picture. Who else is as close to the phenomenon as those with their hands in rubber gloves? Film manufacturers, sure. Archivists? Much less.


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