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#1 Phil Thompson

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Posted 05 January 2016 - 04:24 PM

Hi there,

 

I've finished my first self financed 35mm feature film. Sound is all mixed down, getting a DCP done next week.

 

It's a pretty mental film. It's called 'Essex Spacebin' with soundtrack by Electronic music producer Ceephax Acid Crew (brother of Squarepusher).

 

My question to you is, what would You do?

 

I quite like the idea of going to Cannes with it for the film market. 

 

It looks very good, it's properly demented. We used people with no acting skills as the lead roles to try and get some next level comedy value.

 

Nothing on earth like it.

 

Any ideas?


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#2 Tyler Purcell

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Posted 05 January 2016 - 09:59 PM

Got a trailer?
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#3 Richard Boddington

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Posted 06 January 2016 - 02:05 AM

My question to you is, what would You do?

 

A 35mm, self financed feature, with non union actors?  Gee now this sounds very familiar, I know a guy who made a movie like that.

 

Why are you spending money on a DCP?  Without a theatrical deal in place what do you need it for?

 

You're asking how to sell it?  If only we had 5-6 hours......

 

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#4 Phil Rhodes

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Posted 06 January 2016 - 03:47 AM

My question to you is, what would You do?

 
Nothing. I probably wouldn't have bothered making it.
 

You realise your chances of selling such a thing in the UK are effectively zero, yes?


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#5 Freya Black

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Posted 06 January 2016 - 10:29 AM

Awesome. Congratulations on finishing your first feature film. That's always a big achievement. :)

It sounds like the kind of thing that might work on the festival circuit.

Maybe Sci-fi London or some other places like that?

 

I agree with everyone else here that I wouldn't bother making a DCP unless you need one for some reason (for instance you make a sale or are accepted into a festival that wants a DCP). Even then you might want to look into Open DCP.

 

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#6 Freya Black

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Posted 06 January 2016 - 10:31 AM

Tyler is right you should cut a trailer and get that out there on youtube etc too! )


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#7 Jan Tore Soerensen

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Posted 06 January 2016 - 01:31 PM

People are so close-minded here it's unbelieveable. Chances might be low, but if it's actually good, you have to start hustling. 

 

First would be to get a trailer made and show it to the right people, but also on Vimeo/YT to get some general feedback. Maybe it sucks, you won't know before others have seen it.


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Posted 06 January 2016 - 01:37 PM

Yea, I just want to watch the trailer before I give advice!
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#9 Phil Thompson

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Posted 07 January 2016 - 05:03 PM

We're going to make a trailer soon, so stay tuned.

 

I know it seems silly putting in three years of your life on a film financed by yourself and a friend using people who can't act.

 

But, you only live once. We did everything without compromise. Rightly or wrongly. At least I did it. Was like film school.

 

Plus point, it looks mint as you like. We hired Cooke S4's using My Arri-3.

 

Wanted to approach it Peter Jackson, Bad Taste style. Toil over something for years. And now we have something pretty demented and quite possibly un-sellable.

 

But, maybe not.

 

DCP is costing 500 quid. Not that much money, in the scheme of things. I don't want to do a private screening for family,friends, cast at the Prince Charles playing a MOV file off my laptop of some piece of poop 1080p export from FCPX..


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#10 Richard Boddington

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Posted 07 January 2016 - 06:50 PM

I agree with most of that. If you view it as an investment in yourself, then it's not so bad.

 

I took this route in 2007 and just delivered my fourth feature film, if I didn't make the first one, there would not be a fourth one.

 

Phil is correct in that many of these films never sell, but geez who knows?

 

I have a friend who made a film here in Ontario, Canada, with a budget of maybe $40, 000.00, and all no name non-union actors, first time actors in fact.  The movie was accepted into Cannes, and he got a ton of press out of it. It's been in a lot of other festivals as well, so we'll see...maybe he can go onto another project and maybe not?

 

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#11 Bill DiPietra

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Posted 07 January 2016 - 07:08 PM

I took this route in 2007 and just delivered my fourth feature film, if I didn't make the first one, there would not be a fourth one.

 

 

Exactly.  If you don't give it a go, you'll never know.  There is an audience for virtually every subject matter out there.  It's just a question of how many seats it'll take up.

 

Best of luck and post a trailer when you can.


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#12 Alex Anstey

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Posted 08 January 2016 - 06:13 AM

The film market at Cannes has quite an incredibly diverse range of films - mostly B-movies intended for DVD/TV sales. They do good business! I would seriously consider going.  

 

Congrats on the film btw! 


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#13 Phil Rhodes

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Posted 08 January 2016 - 06:18 AM

I would seriously consider going.

 

And do what? Wander round a series of hotel suites saying "I have a film, d'you want to buy it?"

 

You'll be laughed out of the building.

 

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Posted 08 January 2016 - 06:28 AM

 

Wanted to approach it Peter Jackson, Bad Taste style. Toil over something for years. And now we have something pretty demented and quite possibly un-sellable.

 

But, maybe not.

 

Well selling it isn't the only avenue for getting things out there but good luck with it whatever happens.

 

Does it feature puppets?

 

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#15 Alex Anstey

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Posted 08 January 2016 - 06:34 AM

 

And do what? Wander round a series of hotel suites saying "I have a film, d'you want to buy it?"

 

You'll be laughed out of the building.

 

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Hardly - people sell all sorts of films at Cannes to all sorts of markets. Worth a shot. 


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#16 Phil Rhodes

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Posted 08 January 2016 - 06:54 AM

Hardly - people sell all sorts of films at Cannes to all sorts of markets.

 

Possibly, for some value of "people" which means "experienced salespeople with very nice shoes, who already have long-term relationships with all the companies involved who have already tacitly agreed to buy the film during drinkies around the pool at Jemima and Tristram's engagement party in Barbados."

 

I'm not sure what will happen if you just walk in the door completely cold. No wait, I do know exactly what will happen.


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Posted 08 January 2016 - 08:04 AM

Seems like we need to get a pro salesman on board who believes in the film.


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Posted 08 January 2016 - 08:06 AM

 

Well selling it isn't the only avenue for getting things out there but good luck with it whatever happens.

 

Does it feature puppets?

 

Freya

Hi Freya

 

There is a robot horse and also a robotic cat in one sequence.


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#19 Bill DiPietra

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Posted 08 January 2016 - 09:35 AM

There is a robot horse and also a robotic cat in one sequence.

 

Oh, this sounds like it could go in so many different directions...


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#20 Richard Boddington

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Posted 08 January 2016 - 11:56 AM

I'm not sure what will happen if you just walk in the door completely cold. No wait, I do know exactly what will happen.

 

Phil is quite correct on this point, the sellers at Cannes and AFM have paid a lot of money to have booths there.  And they have paid a lot for flights, and accommodations.   The do not want indie filmmakers coming in and trying to sell them a film, when they are there to sell films.

 

One could walk around without a booth and approach buyers, as the sellers don't have an exclusive on them.  This will lead to dirty looks, and possible hostility from those that have paid to be there.

 

You can certainly sign a deal with a sales agent, this is another 5-6 hour discussion with regard to what will happen next.

 

You can also pay to screen your film at the Cannes Film Market, and invite buyers.

 

I have been through this process with so many indie filmmakers now I have lost count.  I always tell them to spend big money on the key art because that more than anything will get attention.  The response is always the same, we're not spending $5000.00 on key art, my cousin will do if for free.  What they end up with is a laughable piece of art that turns buyers off, instead of having the opposite effect.  It's amazing what great art can do for a bad movie.  I proved this with Dark Reprieve, I got my US distribution deal and an advance really based on the art that I had made and paid for out of my own pocket.  I went to a top designer in LA who does only movie art, and paid him what I needed to.

 

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