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#1 Ckulakov

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Posted 02 June 2005 - 11:59 AM

Dear Filmmakers,
I am using a panasonic camera with a fake progressive mode and cinematic gamma called "Pro Cinema Function". This is the best I can get right know.

1.) Should I use the mode?

2.) What are the specific drawbacks?

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#2 David Mullen ASC

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Posted 02 June 2005 - 12:25 PM

Which camera?

The only possible problem with fake progressive-scan can be a conversion to other formats, like NTSC-to-PAL or a transfer to 24 fps film. Maybe some visual efx compositing issues too. Possible motion artifact problems with webcasting or progressive-scan viewers, etc. Just depends on what it is faking (24P, 25P, or 30P) and what frame rate the system you are viewing it on is.

But for your own viewing or broadcasting on whatever interlaced-scan TV system is that the camera is designed for (NTSC, PAL, SECAM, etc.), if you like the look, then go ahead.
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Posted 02 June 2005 - 12:30 PM

The camera is a Panasonic PV-GS400 3-CCD Mini-DV camcorder.
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#4 David Mullen ASC

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Posted 02 June 2005 - 12:36 PM

NTSC (60i)? So "frame mode" is a fake 30P look?
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#5 Charlie Seper

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Posted 02 June 2005 - 09:49 PM

Of course if you were to do a DVD only release, then it wouldn't much matter how you shot it. Transferring to film from 30P (or a fake 30p) is the problem. Some labs won't even try it. There are a few who claim to be able to do reasonably well. The best method is also the cheapest where a film is made of the video while the video is played back on a monitor. Its not foolproof but it works halfway decent a lot of times.

I use frames mode quite a bit on my JVC but then, I only do DVD how-to videos at this point. I'm working on a documentary of writer George MacDonald now but its mostly being done in Flash, panning around on old photos ala ken Burns. This way I can keep to a hi-def frame size on the cheap.
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#6 David Mullen ASC

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Posted 02 June 2005 - 11:04 PM

Of course if you were to do a DVD only release, then it wouldn't much matter how you shot it. Transferring to film from 30P (or a fake 30p) is the problem.

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Well, the conversion from 30P to 50i PAL would not be pretty either.
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#7 Charlie Seper

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Posted 04 June 2005 - 04:03 PM

Well, the conversion from 30P to 50i PAL would not be pretty either.

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Yeah, that's true.
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