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#1 Pelle Hallert

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Posted 15 March 2016 - 05:31 AM

Hi 

 

I'm having a shoot in a museum and are planning to use a K1 hazer with K1 haze fluid. I have shoot with this bad boy several times before in different historical locations with no visible negative effect to the location.

 

However this time the museum needs documentation that it is a safe liquid to use in this environment. Does anybody know where I can find proper documentation for this or if there is a better hazer to use out there for this purpose?

 

http://www.martin.co...s/k1-haze-fluid

 

I've tried searching the Martin website for documentation but came up short.

 

Best regards

 

/Pelle 


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#2 Mark Dunn

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Posted 15 March 2016 - 06:15 AM

THere's a safety data sheet on that page.


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Posted 15 March 2016 - 06:52 AM

"Substances:

Food/High Grade glycols:
Monopropylene Glycol: CAS Registry Number: 57
556  

Triethylene Glycol: CAS Registry Number: 112276  "  

 

 

Their conservator-restorers will probably know if it is safe to use in the presence of their collection, they know all the materials and chemicals used in their collection.

 

It's very dilute vapor anyway but it can fixate to things for days, thus the smell on clothes etc. I've never heard that it could damage artwork in any way but who knows.... 


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Posted 15 March 2016 - 06:57 AM

glycerine fog fluid might also be possible though it may damage the fogger without modifications


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#5 Pelle Hallert

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Posted 15 March 2016 - 07:11 AM

Thanks both of you.

 

I saw the safety data sheet before too.  However I strongly doubt that all the warning sign in that note will have a soothing effect on the  museum. 

 

I had a futile wish that a at least one D.o.P out there had a prior Ph.D in toxicology and great interest in shooting smokey art and published articles containing extensive test on the matter...Dooh!

 

Let me know if you find something more I will keep digging.

 

/Pelle


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Posted 15 March 2016 - 08:17 AM

Historic environment?

 

Just beat the stairs with a broom.... ?


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Posted 15 March 2016 - 12:55 PM

Thanks both of you.

 

I saw the safety data sheet before too.  However I strongly doubt that all the warning sign in that note will have a soothing effect on the  museum. 

 

I had a futile wish that a at least one D.o.P out there had a prior Ph.D in toxicology and great interest in shooting smokey art and published articles containing extensive test on the matter...Dooh!

 

Let me know if you find something more I will keep digging.

 

/Pelle

 

only the conservator-restorers know how the artwork in their museum is actually done, with which chemicals and techniques and what ingredients could possibly react with the propylene/ethylene glycol vapour. you can ask them a list of the stuff used in artwork and get a chemist's opinion about which could react and which would not. If there is something vulnerable in their collection, they could then remove it for the shoot so that it wouldn't get any glycol vapour on it.


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