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#1 connor denning

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Posted 03 April 2016 - 03:54 AM

What I'd like to know is can the k-2 be used with modern western film (the same as the k-3 uses). The reason I want the k-2 rather then the k-3 is that it has remove able cartridges witch would make loading film quicker. Is the governor accurate in the camera? I'd like to shoot with sound if I have to re-dubb I can, but I have at least some idea of how long that takes. If someone could explain how to do re-dubbing that be grate, though I could figure that out with enough time. I'd like to know to know if using the k-2 is as usable as the k-3.

 

The rig I'm planing on using is a blimp with a non-reflex viewfinder (maybe bolex) mounted on it with some form of parlex corrector (though I'm not sure how the latter works). Depending on weather or not or I can get usable results with sound out of the unmodified camera, I would like to ether use a sync motor replacing the spring motor and drive shaft, or if the sound out of it works fine I would like to just have a motor wind the spring as it unwinds. (Any thoughts on all of this).

 


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Posted 03 April 2016 - 06:12 AM

You still have to load the cartridges.

Loading a K-3 only takes about a minute.


Edited by Mark Dunn, 03 April 2016 - 06:15 AM.

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Posted 03 April 2016 - 08:49 AM

I use the K2 quite a lot with current films without problems. the perforations and film dimensions are the same so why not.

 

the cassette system is useful if you have lots of different stocks on same shoot and have to be able to switch them every 20 ft. or so. otherwise it is pain in the *** and causes dust/gate hair very easily especially if you handle it the wrong way. 

it is also more difficult to load the cartridges in darkroom than it ever is with the daylight spools. so, if you are using the camera for film stock testing then it is useful system but otherwise I would just use the K3


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Posted 03 April 2016 - 03:49 PM

I use the K2 quite a lot with current films without problems. the perforations and film dimensions are the same so why not.

 

the cassette system is useful if you have lots of different stocks on same shoot and have to be able to switch them every 20 ft. or so. otherwise it is pain in the *** and causes dust/gate hair very easily especially if you handle it the wrong way. 

it is also more difficult to load the cartridges in darkroom than it ever is with the daylight spools. so, if you are using the camera for film stock testing then it is useful system but otherwise I would just use the K3

Why do you have to change it every 20ft? And can't it do daylight?


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Posted 03 April 2016 - 04:20 PM

I think it's practical only if you have to constantly change film mid-roll. otherwise you will be much happier with the K3. 

the magazine can be changed in daylight but it has to be loaded in total darkness


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Posted 03 April 2016 - 04:35 PM

I think it's practical only if you have to constantly change film mid-roll. otherwise you will be much happier with the K3. 

the magazine can be changed in daylight but it has to be loaded in total darkness

I'd buy about 5 or 6 of them, so i could shoot more takes in a day.


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Posted 03 April 2016 - 06:01 PM

I'd buy about 5 or 6 of them, so i could shoot more takes in a day.

 

with lenses? then of course take the K3


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Posted 03 April 2016 - 08:05 PM

 

with lenses? then of course take the K3

What?

 

I ment 5 or 6 mags for th k2.


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Posted 03 April 2016 - 10:57 PM

Also can it take any old m42 lens, I'm asking this because on the rear element of the lens protrudes from the body., hence lessening the flange distance.
 


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Posted 05 April 2016 - 08:52 PM

Also can it take any old m42 lens, I'm asking this because on the rear element of the lens protrudes from the body., hence lessening the flange distance.
 

Anyone ever put a regular m42 (not cinema lens) on a k-3?


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Posted 07 April 2016 - 02:03 AM

anyone know if it can't them (regular m42's)?


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Posted 07 April 2016 - 02:41 AM

Yeah it works but the photo lenses have so long focal lenghts for a 16mm format that you need to have normal and wide lenses from smaller format
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Posted 10 April 2016 - 02:48 AM

Yeah it works but the photo lenses have so long focal lenghts for a 16mm format that you need to have normal and wide lenses from smaller format

could you rephrase that?


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Posted 10 April 2016 - 04:53 AM

M42 lenses were meant for 35mm cameras so they rarely come in focal lengths shorter than about a 24mm. Normal for 16mm. is about 15mm. so most M42 lenses will be rather long, that is, have a small angle of view. Of course the rear element has to clear the mirror, which may rule out very short lenses such as the Peleng 8mm and the Zenitar 16mm. You might be able to adapt some C-mount lenses.

Incidentally the flange focal distance of the camera is fixed.


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Posted 10 April 2016 - 06:00 AM

the Peleng 8mm is your only readily available choice. There are other fishyeye lenses out there, but a Peleng 8mm or equivalent is the way to go.


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Posted 10 April 2016 - 06:04 AM

Also, the cost of a K3 compared to the headache of loading those mags.?? I was on a shoot with those mags before, never again. Get a K3, get it overhauled and converted to Ultra 16. You will be a much happier shooter.


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