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#1 Rolfe Klement

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Posted 07 June 2005 - 04:50 AM

I have been offered some short ends at about 600 and 700ft but need to fit them to 400ft mags - I currently don't have access to 1000ft mags (without renting them in)

any ideas?

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#2 Stephen Williams

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Posted 07 June 2005 - 06:13 AM

I have been offered some short ends at about 600 and 700ft but need to fit them to 400ft mags - I currently don't have access to 1000ft mags (without renting them in)

any ideas?

thanks

Rolfe

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Ask your lab to break them down!

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#3 Dan Salzmann

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Posted 07 June 2005 - 09:53 AM

Here in France labs absolutely HATE doing this because if their is any fogging, scratching or other problems they might get blamed.
Generally an AC can use the darkroom at a lab and do it.
This way if there's any problem you can blame the assistant. (Just kidding!)
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#4 Rolfe Klement

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Posted 07 June 2005 - 12:19 PM

Same in UK - in fact the big labs refuse to do it - in case something happens when the roll is being run back or rewound. Scratches etc

Then there are the issues of "well now you have changed the roll tension?" - so that might screw things up

I have no idea about how to do it easily - except maybe rent in a 1000ft mag and shoot with that

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#5 Adam Frisch FSF

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Posted 07 June 2005 - 01:12 PM

They ususally let you use a darkroom with a spool table (all labs have one). I've done it many times when I used to spool Fuji onto A-Minima cores.
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Posted 07 June 2005 - 01:33 PM

Be careful to maintain the correct winding orientation so the Kodak KEYKODE is on the correct side of the film, and increments in the correct direction.

Be sure you have NO LIGHT at all in the darkroom (even as dim as a luminous watch or flashing cell phone LED status light).

You need to wind a perfectly flat roll, or it may rub on the sides of the magazine. A "tightwind" with a undercut builder roller may be needed to achieve this.

In addition to being careful about fogging and dirt, you need to wind carefully to avoid static discharge. Electrically ground (earth) your rewinds, and wear a anti-static grounding wrist band to avoid static buildup on your body.
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#7 Rolfe Klement

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Posted 07 June 2005 - 04:29 PM

thanks for the replies : Adam - can you recommend a Lab - Soho Images are not keen <_<

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#8 Adam Frisch FSF

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Posted 07 June 2005 - 07:21 PM

I'm sorry - haven't done it since I moved to London :(

But I remember Bucks being very helpful on a film we did some years ago.
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