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#1 Kurt Cassidy-Gabhart

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Posted 18 May 2016 - 09:56 PM

      Dear Cinematographers,

 

     Is there any way to get a magnetic film transfer of recording tape for unadulterated analog editing? I am markedly influenced by analog processes in art; all this digital nonsense has never sat well with me - it is all as cold as a witch's - - however that goes. Another, more general question, I suppose, is whether or not it is even possible for one to create a purely analog picture any longer.

 

      Sincerely Grateful,

                 Kurt Cassidy-Gabhart


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#2 Robert Houllahan

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Posted 18 May 2016 - 10:00 PM

Yes

 

If you record to 1/4" on a Nagra it can be recorded to Mag Coat for editing and then recorded to an optical track for making a print.

 

It's a bit obscure but can be done.


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#3 Bill DiPietra

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Posted 18 May 2016 - 10:17 PM

Hi Kurt.  As Rob mentioned you would record the sound on a (1/4" tape) Nagra reel-to-reel recorder and then the lab would transfer it to a magtrack, equivalent to the size of the film gauge you are shooting on.

 

Check ebay...

 

Nagra 4.2


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#4 Tyler Purcell

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Posted 18 May 2016 - 10:35 PM

Nagra IV-STC is the best unit, if you can find one. It's nice to have two channels and timecode.
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#5 Wiliam Cardoza

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Posted 18 May 2016 - 10:44 PM

Dear Kurt,

 

I like you already...

 

I regret selling my Nagra 4.2 , i know who has it, I fantasize of someday ask to buy it back LOL

 

Nagra 4.2 field recording of motorcycle tape saturation (ghetto edit) 


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#6 Simon Wyss

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Posted 19 May 2016 - 01:09 AM

Come here to Basel, we have a sound transfer facility with 35/17.5 and 16 mm magnetic film runners, MWA, mixing console, Steenbeck editors, and trained people. By the way, sound recording has also been done on magnetic film. Tape offers better sound quality.

 

But have you spent a thought on photographic sound recording? Speaking analogue  . . .


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#7 Tyler Purcell

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Posted 19 May 2016 - 12:03 PM

Here in the states, you can score an auricon optical 16mm sound recording camera for peanuts. I've personally always wanted to use one, I can't imagine how cool it would be to cut picture and sound at the same time! :)
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#8 Brian Drysdale

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Posted 19 May 2016 - 12:09 PM

Just bear in mind the distance between the gate and the sound head, It becomes a factor when you're editing com opt or com mag. 


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#9 Tyler Purcell

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Posted 19 May 2016 - 12:11 PM

Dang! yea, of course. That's kind of a problem now isn't it! :(

Magnetic lines up with picture frames and optical doesn't.
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#10 Brian Drysdale

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Posted 19 May 2016 - 12:38 PM

Sep mag does, com mag doesn't


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Posted 19 May 2016 - 02:57 PM

It's possible. The question is can you get it done without sending your material halfway across the country.

Of course if Rob still has his dubbers you're halfway . The other half is a Steenbeck or pic-sync.


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#12 Kurt Cassidy-Gabhart

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Posted 19 May 2016 - 07:10 PM

     Dear Cinematographers,

 

    Thank you all for the educational replies; you have saved me from a lot stress! Who could provide such services, Mr. Houllahan? Which laboratory, Mr. DiPietra? Mr. Wyss - if only I had access to your facility! That would be a dream - you are very fortunate! As for that, Mr. Dunn - I am quite used to it; I do not mind the size of the wall, but rather whether or not I can climb over it.

 

    Sincerely Grateful,

 

   Kurt Cassidy-Gabhart


Edited by Kurt Cassidy-Gabhart, 19 May 2016 - 07:18 PM.

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#13 Robert Houllahan

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Posted 19 May 2016 - 07:27 PM

We have 16mm - 35mm Mag dubbers and a Ampex 1/4" with pilottone at Cinelab, have not used them for recording in a while, just Sep Mag and Archival work.

 

There is also a shop in Toronto that does Mag and Optical sound creation, I will fins the contact info.


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#14 Bill DiPietra

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Posted 19 May 2016 - 10:46 PM

Also, ColorLab in Maryland does mag transfers.


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#15 Simon Wyss

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Posted 20 May 2016 - 01:16 AM

Mr. Cassidy-Gabhart, it’s not my property, I said we for we film folks of Basel.

Urs Guldenmann is the sound specialist.

 

http://museumofmagne...gneticFilm.html


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#16 Kurt Cassidy-Gabhart

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Posted 22 May 2016 - 04:09 PM

      Dear Cinematographers,

 

      Thank you all for the assistance! You make this website the great place that it is!

 

               Sincerely Grateful,

 

                             K. Cassidy-Gabhart


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