Jump to content


Photo

Between bedsheets and muslin?


  • Please log in to reply
13 replies to this topic

#1 Jonathan O'Neill

Jonathan O'Neill
  • Basic Members
  • PipPip
  • 25 posts
  • Cinematographer
  • Nottingham

Posted 20 May 2016 - 04:51 AM

Hi, Can anyone recommend a material halfway between bedsheets and calico for bouncing?

I feel bedsheets are a little blue, possibly due to the cotton being bleached? and calico/muslin/unbleached, is a little too warm, and loses a touch too much light.

Something cheap, lightweight, readily available, opaque.  

 

Some kinda cheap ultra bounce material?

Thanks


  • 0

#2 JD Hartman

JD Hartman
  • Basic Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1783 posts
  • Gaffer
  • Edison, N.J. U.S.A.

Posted 20 May 2016 - 06:14 AM

Maybe sailcloth? 

http://www.sailrite....ailcloth-Fabric

 

UK supplier

http://www.profabrics.co.uk/


Edited by JD Hartman, 20 May 2016 - 06:16 AM.

  • 0

#3 Jonathan O'Neill

Jonathan O'Neill
  • Basic Members
  • PipPip
  • 25 posts
  • Cinematographer
  • Nottingham

Posted 20 May 2016 - 06:46 AM

Nice one, thanks


  • 0

#4 Stuart Allman

Stuart Allman
  • Basic Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 198 posts
  • Cinematographer
  • San Diego, CA

Posted 20 May 2016 - 11:56 AM

Jonathan,

 

I just went to the local fabric store and bought bleached muslin.  It's cheap and commonly available.

 

You can buy Ultrabounce fabric and it's very inexpensive.  When manufacturers sew and grommet the sheet it suddenly becomes expensive.

 

Stuart

---------------------------

illuma.blogspot.com


  • 0

#5 Jonathan O'Neill

Jonathan O'Neill
  • Basic Members
  • PipPip
  • 25 posts
  • Cinematographer
  • Nottingham

Posted 20 May 2016 - 12:01 PM

 

 

I just went to the local fabric store and bought bleached muslin.  It's cheap and commonly available.

 

You can buy Ultrabounce fabric and it's very inexpensive.  When manufacturers sew and grommet the sheet it suddenly becomes expensive.

 

 

Yeah thanks, I'll head to my shop and have a look around.

 

I looked into it a bit and believe 'Ripstop" is pretty similar to gridcloth?

 

Do you know the "non film industry" name for ultrabounce?


  • 0

#6 John E Clark

John E Clark
  • Basic Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 850 posts
  • Other
  • San Diego

Posted 20 May 2016 - 12:11 PM

Hi, Can anyone recommend a material halfway between bedsheets and calico for bouncing?

I feel bedsheets are a little blue, possibly due to the cotton being bleached? and calico/muslin/unbleached, is a little too warm, and loses a touch too much light.

Something cheap, lightweight, readily available, opaque.  

 

Some kinda cheap ultra bounce material?

Thanks

 

'bedsheets' come in all manner of 'white/offwhite', and one usually can find the warmer tones.

 

Since you list the UK as your location... I don't know what is available at hardware or 'home building' supplies, but here in the US there is a popular dropcloth for painting that is a 'warm' white canvas available at such chain stores as Home Depot or Lowes. I'm sure the UK has some similar type of store... quick check seems to indicate Homebase is such a chain store... In the US there was a Homebase chain, perhaps unrelated, which  went bankrupt years ago...


  • 0

#7 Edward Lawrence Conley III

Edward Lawrence Conley III
  • Basic Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 192 posts
  • Other
  • Los Angeles CA

Posted 20 May 2016 - 02:28 PM

the white fabric used on the Blackout curtains might be close.

 

example

 

http://www.makeit-lo...ed-version.html


  • 0

#8 JD Hartman

JD Hartman
  • Basic Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1783 posts
  • Gaffer
  • Edison, N.J. U.S.A.

Posted 20 May 2016 - 03:22 PM

Maybe we could try and base our suggestions on what is or may be available in the U.K.?  

Phil, what fabrics do you use for bounce?


  • 0

#9 Stuart Brereton

Stuart Brereton
  • Basic Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 3378 posts
  • Cinematographer
  • Los Angeles

Posted 20 May 2016 - 05:15 PM

 

 

I looked into it a bit and believe 'Ripstop" is pretty similar to gridcloth?

 

Ripstop just refers to the weave of the fabric, and the reinforcing technique used. The most common type that's used in tents and outdoor equipment tends to be made of nylon, and would probably melt if used in front of a hot lamp. I don't know exactly what material is used in Gridcloth, but it's evidently heat resistant.


  • 0

#10 Stuart Allman

Stuart Allman
  • Basic Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 198 posts
  • Cinematographer
  • San Diego, CA

Posted 21 May 2016 - 10:19 PM

I'm not sure there is a non-industry name for Ultrabounce.  I've never seen it outside film supply places.  Just do a Google search for "Ultrabounce fabric" and you'll find it online.  It should be $12-14/yard in 60" wide.  The trick might be finding it in the U.K.  It's easily obtainable from L.A.

 

At some of the film supply places online you might be able to find grid cloth too. 

 

Stuart


  • 0

#11 Mark Kenfield

Mark Kenfield
  • Basic Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1188 posts
  • Cinematographer
  • Australia/Wherever The Wind Takes Me

Posted 22 May 2016 - 12:34 AM

Have you tried bleached muslin OP? I find that takes all of the overt warmth out of straight muslin.


  • 0

#12 JD Hartman

JD Hartman
  • Basic Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1783 posts
  • Gaffer
  • Edison, N.J. U.S.A.

Posted 22 May 2016 - 06:48 AM

I gather from this: https://normsstudio.equipment/rag-materials-explained/ , that gridcloth is actually sailcloth, probably in different weights.  This is confirmed by the information on the Rose Brand website. http://www.rosebrand...-diffusion.aspx

 

Seems like Ultrabounce and Superbounce are trademarked names, but for a variation of what off the shelf product?


  • 0

#13 Jonathan O'Neill

Jonathan O'Neill
  • Basic Members
  • PipPip
  • 25 posts
  • Cinematographer
  • Nottingham

Posted 22 May 2016 - 07:59 AM

Possibly flame retardant PU coated sail cloth? http://www.profabric...-fire-retardent


  • 0

#14 Matthew Parnell

Matthew Parnell
  • Basic Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 290 posts
  • Electrician
  • Brisbane, Australia

Posted 24 May 2016 - 07:00 AM

Rosco does ultrabounce by the roll, Called Cinebounce.

It takes a bit of trial and error, but you could try tea staining white sheets to warm them up. Soak the white sheets in a brew of tea, and line dry them.
  • 0


Wooden Camera

Gamma Ray Digital Inc

Abel Cine

The Slider

Tai Audio

Visual Products

FJS International, LLC

CineLab

New Pro Video - New and Used Equipment

Media Blackout - Custom Cables and AKS

Technodolly

rebotnix Technologies

Rig Wheels Passport

CineTape

Paralinx LLC

Aerial Filmworks

Willys Widgets

Glidecam

Ritter Battery

Metropolis Post

Broadcast Solutions Inc

Wooden Camera

Abel Cine

Technodolly

Tai Audio

Visual Products

Aerial Filmworks

Rig Wheels Passport

Metropolis Post

Ritter Battery

Broadcast Solutions Inc

The Slider

New Pro Video - New and Used Equipment

Media Blackout - Custom Cables and AKS

Paralinx LLC

rebotnix Technologies

Glidecam

CineTape

Willys Widgets

FJS International, LLC

CineLab

Gamma Ray Digital Inc