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#1 George Ebersole

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Posted 24 August 2016 - 02:10 AM

I recently bought the full series of Colmobo, and the playback looks like video even though it's film.  Has anyone else seen the DVDs, and do you know what I'm talking about?  It looks like it was 30fps or something greater, but it seems very natural all at the same time.

 

Can anyone comment?


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#2 David Mullen ASC

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Posted 24 August 2016 - 05:18 PM

It would have been shot at 24 fps, there were very few series shot at 30 fps. Is the "motion flow" feature turned off on your TV?
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#3 George Ebersole

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Posted 24 August 2016 - 10:08 PM

Hey David

 

I don't really know.  I've been watching it on my computer monitor, and it looks sped up by a few frames.  I'm using Power DVD 16.  I'll have to check the features.  I just remember watching this show as a kid and it looking quite different on television--like 24fps.


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#4 David Mullen ASC

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Posted 24 August 2016 - 10:40 PM

It's not a PAL DVD (region 2)?
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#5 George Ebersole

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Posted 25 August 2016 - 12:02 AM

No, it's actually the complete boxed set from Universal.  I'm almost thinking it was done intentionally, although I don't know why.  The motion looks like 29/30 fps video but with a film image.  I saw this done with a couple of other series way back in the 90s.  But I can't imagine why they'd do it with an official DVD release. 


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Posted 25 August 2016 - 04:30 AM

It would have been shot at 24 fps, there were very few series shot at 30 fps. Is the "motion flow" feature turned off on your TV?

 

David, you're a diamond !

I wondered what the hell was going on when watching movies round a couple of friend's houses.

I couldn't figure out how conventional movies looked like video to me and just hated the way it spoilt the experience.

 

Here's a link to explain all....

http://hometheaterre...ake-it-go-away/

 

 

Thanks again,

John S  :rolleyes:


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#7 Igor Trajkovski

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Posted 25 August 2016 - 04:47 AM

From Cyberlink's site about your PowerDVD16 it has
Tons of those "enhancement" features like the TV's:

* TrueTheater® Color
* TrueTheater® Sound

* TrueTheater
 

 

 

About the last one:

TrueTheater Enhancements for the Best Movie Experience

* TrueTheater HD - Upscale video to HD quality and beyond

 

* TrueTheater Motion - Up-convert frame-rate for smoother video playback
 

* TrueTheater Lighting - Enhanced image colors and detail

* TrueTheater Stretch - Intelligently expand 4:3 video to 16:9

* TrueTheater Stabilizer - Minimize video shakiness

* TrueTheater Denoise - Reduce video artifacts

 

 

 

There might be the culprit. :)

 

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Most players can show the video stream properties - size, fps.
BSPlayer shows it in the playback control panel, VLC via the Tools/Codec Information menu.

I'm sure PowerDVD can display such things also.

At the end of the day, go in the VIDEO_TS folder on your DVD,

copy one of the ~1GB .VOB files and import it in your NLE.

If unsuported, just rename the extension from .VOB to .MPG and

in your NLE see the properties of the file.

 

Regards

Igor


PS: How EVERYBODY knows how to "enhance" the artistic intentions of the creators...


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#8 George Ebersole

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Posted 25 August 2016 - 04:43 PM

 

What are we talking about? The Soap Opera Effect is actually a popular nickname for the motion smoothing function found in many modern HDTVs. Some of the more official-sounding names for this function are motion interpolation, frame interpolation, or motion estimation/motion compensation (MEMC). They all describe the same thing: that super-smooth effect that makes film sources look like video on your TV.

 

And

 

 

 

And finally comes motion or frame interpolation, in which the TV looks at two existing frames and creates an entirely new frame in between them by guessing or estimating what should be there.

 

 

Thanks John.

 

Wow.  That's crazy.  So a third of what I'm seeing isn't original footage.


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#9 David Mullen ASC

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Posted 25 August 2016 - 05:18 PM

You could try some other DVD player software...

 

Why not put the DVD in a regular DVD player attached to a TV and see how it looks that way?


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#10 George Ebersole

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Posted 25 August 2016 - 07:04 PM

I will in time.  I just moved a couple months back, and a lot of my stuff is still in storage.  I actually don't mind the "video"-ized motion, I just needed an explanation for it.  :)


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#11 George Ebersole

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Posted 26 August 2016 - 10:32 AM

Update, I toggled off the video enhancements, and it looks like the TV show I grew up with.  Really really strange.  I often wondered if someone would be able to come up with this with a piece of code, and here it is.  Very interesting.  

 

I'm not sure it really adds anything, but I guess it updates older shows and films for newer generations.  


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