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#1 Brandon Wong

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Posted 05 December 2016 - 01:20 AM

Hey everyone.

 

I'm a big fan of the dolly in/out camera movement. I was wondering if this could be achieved via using a camera slider like this :  https://www.amazon.c...s=camera slider

 

or would I need a higher base, accompanied with a longer lens?

 

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#2 Brian Drysdale

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Posted 05 December 2016 - 04:10 AM

You'd need boxes or similar to being that slider up to working height, since it doesn't seem to have a system of tripods.

 

24 inches doesn't seem to be that long for a track in or out, OK for those small moves close to an object or subject, but not for much more. Longer lenses tend to reduce the sense of movement, so you end up doing longer tracks.


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#3 Mark Kenfield

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Posted 06 December 2016 - 01:34 AM

I think you'd probably want a minimum 4' long slider for a push in. Works best with a riser for the tripod head though, so you get more distance from the rails and are less likely to get them in shot.
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#4 George Ebersole

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Posted 06 December 2016 - 06:33 PM

I also tried a slider last weekend.  Again, I had no patience for the thing.  You'd think someone would have developed a computer controlled motorized version by now.


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#5 JD Hartman

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Posted 06 December 2016 - 06:36 PM

I also tried a slider last weekend.  Again, I had no patience for the thing.  You'd think someone would have developed a computer controlled motorized version by now.

 

Well yeah...it's called motion control.  You could build a slider with the sled controlled by a stepper motor if you had the mechanical and electronic skills. 


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#6 George Ebersole

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Posted 06 December 2016 - 10:49 PM

I thought motion control was for miniature SFX shots only.  I guess it stands to reason someone would make one for a slider.


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#7 Igor Trajkovski

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Posted 07 December 2016 - 07:28 AM

I also tried a slider last weekend.  Again, I had no patience for the thing.  You'd think someone would have developed a computer controlled motorized version by now.

I've seen a lot of motorized versions in various videos:

Edelkrone: It's Time to Discover SliderPLUS All Over Again

Konova K5 motorized slider kit

Here listing on B&H of motorized sliders - LINK

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I just saw one with pure mechanical motion - "Using a clockwork combined with spring energy, Modo doesn't require any power, controllers, cables, or programming to operate, resulting in a compact and easy to use linear motion solution."

 Cinevate Inc Duzi Slider v3 and Modo Motion Time Lapse Kit (24")

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#8 Ray Rushing

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Posted 07 December 2016 - 10:39 AM

Kessler's Second Shoot is good for lighter camera packages.  They also make a system called CineDrive for heavier builds.  We own a Second Shoot for timelapse and it works great.  I would imagine it would handle push in and pull out shots well if using a DSLR or similar weight camera.  

 

http://www.kesslercr.../motion-control


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#9 JD Hartman

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Posted 07 December 2016 - 06:11 PM

If DIY is of any interest: http://www.rondexter.com/


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#10 Stuart Brereton

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Posted 08 December 2016 - 04:56 PM

Not exactly a slider, but I find the Dana Dolly to be an indispensable piece of kit. I bought one about 5 years ago, and use it on every job.


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#11 David Daniel Doherty

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 12:25 PM

Dolly in/outs are of course possible with a slider. At that short length, motion control is a must in my opinion, as you'll want the entire move, start to finish, to be useable. Motion control will give you that accuracy, as slow as you like also.

 

I've been using the ''Digi Slider'' for years. It's brilliant and reasonably priced


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