17 year old here looking for help and info!!
Posted 17 June 2005 - 07:37 PM
Posted 17 June 2005 - 07:59 PM
That said, I am a fellow 17 year old in film. I can tell you that there is a lot to be learned firstly from books and secondly from this board. I read everything here, and have learned a great amount from it. I tend to just sit back and read; while at times I feel I could answer a question, I can always be quite sure that someone else can answer it better.
As for getting on a film set, I can tell you how it worked out for me. I noticed there was a 48 hour film festival happening in my city (you may want to check if there is in yours- check here). I contacted the organizer, telling him about myself, that I was interested in a film, and that I was offering my help on a set. The day after he sent out an email, I got an offer from 3 teams. The organizer (Ira Livingston for any of you in the Twin Cities or Chicago) also is keeping me updated on another project he has going that I will be able to help with. I ended up picking a team for the 48 hour film, and I gripped/gaffed for the DP. This was really fun, and all of the people had experience in the industry. I cannot stress how much I learned just from one day helping out on a set. To the 2 teams who I had to turn down, I made sure to tell them that if they ever wanted help I was there. Lo and behold, a week after the festival, I get an email from a producer saying that they are about to start filming a feature-length film and that they could use my help. And that is how these next few weeks of my summer will be occupied. All of this from just one email offering my help.
Also, one thing I really recommend for teens interested in film is a job at a video rental store, if you can find one. The benefits are two-fold: get money to spend on DVDs, books, or film equipment; and then, get free access to the DVDs to learn more about film. Most all video rental stores allow their employees large amounts of free rentals, albeit usually overnight.
I think if you look through the forums, you will find a lot of your questions have been discussed at great length. Of course, note that these forums are cinematography-centric, so if you want to learn more about film direction or acting, this isn't really the place to look. Check the Education forum for information about film schools. Check the recommended books and films section. Search on the internet for local independent film organizations, give them an email offering your help. Always be on the lookout for opportunities, and when they come up, seize them.
Edited by anamexis, 17 June 2005 - 08:02 PM.
Posted 17 June 2005 - 08:01 PM
I'm a 17 year old too.
HEY!, im a 17 year old high school student
Who said? You dont HAVE to do anything. If you have the money to go through "Art" college, do it. They can help you with Job Placement once your graduate, and if you attend a normal college (NYU, for example) you can also master in other subjects... Just in case film don't work out.
(i know i must go through art college
However, there are MANY people in the industry that have never gone to college (at least "Art" college). Many may have degree's in computer sciense, english, ect but I dont see how that applies to film.
While I cant vouch for the value of this college, Full Sail film school (www.fullsail.com) does not go by your grades / GPA, SAT scores ect. Note that they only specialize the in Entertainment Industry, so you cant get a BA in Business there...
but are there any suggestions for a good college i can get into with my grades and an sat score of like 1440 ish (new SAT), can any of you give me tips
From this post, you can see you like Harry Potter, I do as well. A lot of people can "Visualize" the castle and Great Hall also, I can and I'm sure a lot of people here can. That is not whats important, what is important is HOW you visualize it. And if you wanna be a director you have to do more than just visualize the castle, you have to visualize how to move the camera and the actors so that they are in the places you want them.
I read books, and i visualize things perfectly, and mainly with the harry potter books, i visualized the castle, the mess hall and everything pretty much perfectly.
Sounds like somebody I know
When i got enough balls to, the club wouldnt let me in since i missed like 4 meetings due to drivers ed.
A lot of big sets are closed to the public (unless of course there filming in downtown middle america, then you can usually watch from the police line "DO NOT CROSS". You would be surprised however, some studios give tours of there backlots, while I dont think they include many films being shot in them, it may help some.
can any of you give me tips, and i know this is a long shot, but allow me to come onto a set to see what it is really like,
Also, watch a lot of behind the scenes DVD stuff! Thats about as close to being on a film set as most will get (unless of course you get in good with someone, then usually they can take you on set with them)...
Just my $0.02...
Posted 17 June 2005 - 08:05 PM
Daniel J. Ashley-Smith
Posted 17 June 2005 - 08:07 PM
Read some film books and photography books, go out with your SLR take some pictures to practice the theory, continue to make films with your friends but improve them using the knowledge you have gained, meet up with some other film bods and just make a movie! Doesn't matter how crap it comes out, watch it, and learn from your mistakes, watch it and think to your self "what can be improved?"
Well... good luck anyway!
Posted 17 June 2005 - 08:08 PM
And yet, I never went to college..
PS) Its not unusal to make $400/week doing the networking part time (1-2 days a week)
PSS)If you want, I can always give you a Job @ Firestorm Entertainment (My company)... We are Like Troma though, so don't count on making much money...
Edited by Landon D. Parks, 17 June 2005 - 08:15 PM.
Posted 17 June 2005 - 08:17 PM
Posted 17 June 2005 - 08:51 PM
I've shot plenty of videotape myself and for-hire, worked as an editor on various formats, as a location sound mixer for several independent features, day played on a CMT-network reality series, and interned/assisted/clapper/pa'd on more S16mm shoots than I care to remember and in the end of it, I don't consider my collected experience "a career" in film. That's why I put "student" down on this website.
I've had some exposure to the business and a few brushins with so-called "famous" people, but a career is a lifetime of achievements built one agonizing step at a time. If what I do is a "career" then it's pretty pathetic.
I'll consider my work a career when I'm more focused and strictly do one thing for a living... meaning I don't work a second job. Or, if I'm not working at all, which is arguably better for the ego (I only "work" as a cinematographer and not a Camera Store or MacDonalds even though I only "work" part time which is nine days a year) but does little to help further your continued existence here on earth.
Remember this: No matter what career you pursue, you must feed yourself!!
Posted 17 June 2005 - 09:25 PM
Posted 17 June 2005 - 09:41 PM
Posted 17 June 2005 - 10:29 PM
Pick up a MiniDV camera and the student edition of AVID Xpress Pro - $295 at www.journeyed.com ($1500 retail)
PS - you ought to tighten up your words
Daniel J. Ashley-Smith
Posted 18 June 2005 - 06:58 AM
Posted 18 June 2005 - 01:28 PM
heck I was cutting on-camera for a year before I got avid.
I think it's best to learn on something that is actually used in the industry. If you can, you ought to learn Avid and final cut pro. And this guy sounds like a nerd so he'd probably be able to handle Avid; it's not too complicated.
Posted 18 June 2005 - 05:04 PM
but hey, it works almost as good as a fully functioning software, and it's free*
*=If your a cheater like me, or you can be a good boy and pay $600 for it (I dont think so!!!!!!!!!!!)
Edited by Landon D. Parks, 18 June 2005 - 05:04 PM.
Posted 18 June 2005 - 06:18 PM
If you consider everyone that pays a moron, then it means you don't approve such action (buying software) and where does that leave you? It leaves you without any software becuase nobody is going to manufacture software if nobody is buying it and everyone is following your model of behaviour
I'm not going to moralize here, i'm just talking about consistancy (either you are for it or against it, the rest is double standards)
Edited by Filip Plesha, 18 June 2005 - 06:19 PM.
Daniel J. Ashley-Smith
Posted 19 June 2005 - 08:34 AM
The people who are going to use it properly, the people who are going to make something out of it. I on the other hand, just wanted a good bit of software to play around with and to learn about. If I suddenly started making big films or something I'd go and buy a full version without a doubt.
Well someone has to pay for it. So who do you expect that to be?
You have to make these pieces of software pay for themselves, right now I can't, but I can learn about them.
Posted 19 June 2005 - 09:06 AM
That's why Avid knocks 80% off the commercial prices for students.
I on the other hand, just wanted a good bit of software to play around with and to learn about.
Posted 19 June 2005 - 09:14 AM
fully featured trail version you can download... be sure to sign up for a new license under a different e-mail address each time... it works almost as good as a fully functioning software, and it's free*
There is nothing wrong or inethical about what you're doing as long as you are indeed obtaining an authentic trial version from Sony each month and re-installing it. That is completely OK in my book. If you use a key or crack program, then that's illegal, obviously, but from what you say, you're just using a different email account each time you download and that is perfectly acceptable. I hope you're enjoying it. Even with the reduced functionality, it's still a great tool. Enjoy!