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#1 Felix Wiedemann

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Posted 05 January 2017 - 04:51 AM

Hello everybody,

 

Are there any US TV Dramas broadcast in 2.39 : 1 aspect ratio ?

 

I know 2 : 1 is becoming more popular, but are there any examples of 2.39 ?

 

Thank you very much !


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#2 Phil Connolly

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Posted 05 January 2017 - 06:25 AM

Hey Felix

 

Netflix seems to be cooler with wider AR's as you say quite a lot of 2 :1 but I did spot that "Master of None" is 2.39:1

 

In the UK of course there's Utopia and Top Boy which I guess you've seen. 

 

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#3 Phil Rhodes

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Posted 05 January 2017 - 08:09 AM

Who's shooting scope for broadcast in the UK?

 

I'd have thought the BBC would have an aneurysm.

 

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#4 Phil Connolly

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Posted 05 January 2017 - 08:16 AM

Who's shooting scope for broadcast in the UK?

 

I'd have thought the BBC would have an aneurysm.

 

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Almost exclusively on Channel 4 - Top Boy was probably the first one, super 16 with 1.3X anamorphics. 

 

But channel 4 and Film Four have tended to use letterbox a lot for films anyway - far fewer films were pan and scanned. So that softens the audience to accept letter boxed TV drama programming. If they use it for films with minimal complaints then its fine for commissioned drama. 

 

Utopia looked great in scope: 


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#5 Mark Kenfield

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Posted 05 January 2017 - 09:46 AM

2:1 is okay, but the full 2.39:1 scope ratio seems kinda silly for any project that's destined purely for TV screening. It's just not making good use of the medium.
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#6 Phil Connolly

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Posted 05 January 2017 - 10:21 AM

2:1 is okay, but the full 2.39:1 scope ratio seems kinda silly for any project that's destined purely for TV screening. It's just not making good use of the medium.

With the increasing number of common width cinema screens and the fact that with digital projection, scope film use fewer pixels then flat - you could make the same argument about use of scope in theatrical films. As my local multiplex the screen gets smaller for scope films. If we wanted to maximise screen real estate all films should be 1.9:1

 

I would argue that since TV screens are much bigger then they used to be, scope images can be effective.  Different aspect ratio's are a creative choice just as relevant for TV broadcast as it is for cinema. Personally I'd like to see more 2.39:1 telly programs - go do it Felix


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#7 Felix Wiedemann

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Posted 07 January 2017 - 07:05 AM

Thanks a lot Phil, very useful to know that 'Master of None' is 2.39 ! Will see if there are more examples.


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#8 Robert Drummond

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Posted 11 February 2017 - 10:21 PM

Interestingly, the BBC's War & Peace from last year was shot largely with anamorphics with a plan to crop to 16x9 for broadcast.  I seem to recall reading that they wanted the character of the anamorphic lenses without actually planning to use the entire frame.  I'm actually surprised that isn't done more often.

 

In a similar vein, several years ago, the "failed" BBC scifi series Outcasts was shot anamorphic on the Arri D21, which I think was the only digital cinema camera at the time to offer a 4:3 sensor to take advantage of 2x anamorphics.  I think the producers wanted to broadcast in 2.39.1, but the BBC said no.  They did however let them use the full 2.39 frame for the "next time" trailers!  At the time, they claimed they were the first ever use of anamorphics for a TV production.  Just like War & Peace a few years later, the production team still wanted the other benefits of the anamorphic lenses, even if they were going to throw some of the image on the sides away: http://www.definitio...-broadcast.html


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#9 Ravi Kiran

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Posted 23 March 2017 - 01:14 AM

Miracles - Panavision Platinum cameras configured for 3-perf pulldown and C-series anamorphic lenses (4x3 extraction, 16x9 protection)

 

Cinematographer Ernest Holzman, ASC explores the existence of Miracles in modern-day society

 

Fear the Walking Dead - Alexa Mini with Panavision B-Series anamorphics (16x9 extraction)

 

McDonough Brings Anamorphic Look to Fear the Walking Dead

 

True Detective season 2 - Arri Alexa with B-series, C-series, and E-series lenses (16x9 extraction)

 

THE LENSES MAKE THE LOOK ON TRUE DETECTIVE

 

Also from this thread:

 



Channel 4 in the UK have commissioned a couple of drama series in 2.35:1

 

Top Boy - shot with 1.3 Hawk anamorphics:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1830379/

 

and Utopia:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2384811/

 

So it does happen, its just very very rare.


Edited by Ravi Kiran, 23 March 2017 - 01:14 AM.

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#10 Robert Drummond

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Posted 27 March 2017 - 09:56 PM

Broadchurch Series 3 is going out as we speak, and they're doing the 2:1 thing.  It was shot with Cooke Anamorphic/i lenses : http://www.creativep...series-3/617738

 

It looks quite lovely. 

 

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#11 Adrian Sierkowski

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Posted 27 March 2017 - 10:04 PM

good series broadchurch.


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#12 Robin R Probyn

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Posted 28 March 2017 - 03:11 AM

First series was 16-9 wasn't it.. .. yes good series.. 


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#13 Adrian Sierkowski

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Posted 28 March 2017 - 01:16 PM

Believe so, but it's been awhile since i've seen it.

House of cards also did 2:1 which was interesting for a US show.


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