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#1 Gabriel Wilson

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 10:01 PM

Struggling to find any information online about grading a 16mm black and white transfer. I have done grading work but would love some tips on grading 16mm transfer specifically black and white. Any resources would be appreciated. 


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#2 Stuart Brereton

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 10:16 PM

Are you talking about timing photochemically, or a digital grade?


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#3 Gabriel Wilson

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 10:17 PM

Digital in Resolve.


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#4 Satsuki Murashige

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 11:12 PM

I don't think there's anything you need to do differently when digitally grading B&W originated film. If anything, it should be easier as you only have to worry about contrast.

The only complication I can think of would be dealing with the inherent contrast in 7266 Tri-X reversal stock, but that's not a problem specific to B&W or 16mm.
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#5 Robert Houllahan

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Posted 22 April 2017 - 02:21 PM

In telecine on the Spirit I usually set the hilites to the top and set the shadows so they are just about clipping and then adjust the gamma to suit the content and face tone.


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#6 Gabriel Wilson

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Posted 27 April 2017 - 01:33 PM

Should I still be desaturating the Image? I am getting an RGB color cast. The director is asking me to take it out. Not sure if this is normal or a mistake in the processing?


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#7 Satsuki Murashige

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Posted 27 April 2017 - 02:23 PM

Well, that's odd. Not sure how it could be the film itself if you shot B&W film stock. I would think just taking the saturation down to 0 would be the quickest fix.

When I've had B&W film scanned in the past, it came back as Prores 4444 with only the Y-channel (luminance). So there was no RGB at all in the Resolve scopes.
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